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Posted: Wed Apr 23rd, 2008 11:53 pm |
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Hello Members
I am new to your Forum and very interested in Palmistry. I have been reading the discussions for hours now and am so overwhelmed by all the insight offered by everyone.
I have been particularly studying the subject above as I am almost certain I have this star on my right hand Saturn Mount. I have bought 2 palmistry books and one actually says this sybolises 'disastrous death, murder and always found on the hand of the condemmed criminal'!! Every avenue I explore has relatively the same description.
I would like to know firstly, how can I be sure it is a star because 2 of the 3 lines that meet, one rises from my heart line and the other seems to branch down from the end of my index finger.
Your expertise is very welcome on the subject!
Thanks very much
Miranda
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Posted: Thu Apr 24th, 2008 12:09 am |
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Hi Miranda
First of all, welcome to this community and thank you for posting.
I just have to ask you, which books have you been looking at that have offered these fatalistic interpretations about the 'star' found on your Saturn mount? Because I'm betting that they were either written some years ago, or belong to that category of books that I consider to be written by palmists who are just repeating something they have read in an earlier book, without actually trying out the techniques for themselves.
The reason the interpretation of disastrous death has come about is because traditionally, a cross on Saturn was the 'mark of the scaffold'. And the reason it is suggested that the star appears on the hands of criminals is because vertical lines on the Saturn mount suggest a strengthening of the Saturnian character, which along with the Mercurian, were considered to be the most capable of all the mount types to have criminal tendencies. It was Benham who first suggested that the Saturnian character could be found among the criminal types so it looks as if the author of the book you have read has followed this idea through and given his own narrow visioned interpretation.
But you must know that these old fashioned interpretations are not really fashionable in our modern society. While it may be true that criminal types may or may not have a strong degree of Saturnian or Mercurial qualities, it is certainly not the only aspect of Saturn and Mercury that exists. These are just negative aspects. We all have positive and negative qualities of every mount in some degree, so to focus in on the negative aspects only is inaccurate and highly suspect. Positive and negative qualities go hand in hand. I really like the strength of Martial energy, but at the same time, I might resent the agressive tendency. You can't have one without the other. The quality that you really admire in one respect appears both as the ability to rise to a challenge and the ability to be aggressive.
So there are positives and negatives with Saturnian and Mercurial energy. It all depends on other aspects of the personality as to whether the negative aspects will win the day, or the positive.
I think it would be best to interpret the individual lines themselves, rather than make any attempt to interpret the 'star' formation. So often, a star is wrongly assessed - it is such a loose description of a multitude of possibilities.
Can you take an image of your hands and post them here in the community. This is the best way to ensure the 'star' can be interpreted more accurately.
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Posted: Thu Apr 24th, 2008 09:42 pm |
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Hi Sue
Thank you for your response. The book I have which gave me this grim outllook is The Encyclopedia of Palmistry by Edward D Campbell, and I'm embarrassed to say my other source is a book called The Idiot's Guide To Palmistry. Unfortunately these were the only 2 books I found on palmistry in my search through bookstores. I would appreciate it if you could recommend some books I could purchase perhaps over the internet to get me going.
I am finding it hard however to learn only from a book. I can see it is not an easy art to learn.
I will post an image of my hand as soon as I get a good picture.
Thanks again
Miranda
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Posted: Fri Apr 25th, 2008 12:10 am |
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Hi Miranda
Ah, thanks for the book titles. I don't know anything about the Idiot's Guide to Palmistry, but I do know Ed Campbell's book which I think is actually pretty good. He has added many of the thoughts and theories from all over the world, which is a particularly good reference for all hand readers.
However, as well as including many useful techniques, he has also included many theories which are yet untried and untested, which means that the reader has to sort out the information for himself, but it is a really good book to refer to.
Although there are many books available on palmistry, I still don't think you can beat Lori Reid's 'Complete Book of the Hand' and 'Health in the Hands' and Practical Palmistry by David Brandon Jones. I also very much like Michael Moore's Manual of Palmistry (I think its called). These books are straightforward, easy reading, and just tell it as it is. However, these books are getting more difficult to find these days. Lori Reid also brought out a book which I believe was called 'Elements of Palmistry' or something similar. This is an excellent introduction to palmistry for the complete novice, as it goes through the basics, and gets you generally acquainted with the subject.
Benhams' Book of Palmistry is great for information about skin texture, colour, the mount types, fingers and thumbs, and the influence lines found on Venus, although his chapters on the major lines of the palms leave a little to be desired.
Out of the more recent books available, I think Johnny Fincham's book 'From Apprentice to Pro' is definitely worth a read. I like the way Johnny describes many of the features in the hands - his words really do aid learning, but as with them all, no single book can cover everything simply because there is so much to learn. But with all the books I have mentioned here, you won't go far wrong!
You are right, of course. Palmistry isn't an easy art to learn, which is why I offer an online palmistry course which takes the student step by step through a VERY wide range of techniques. A tremendous amount of research went into that course!!
Sue 
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Posted: Sat Apr 26th, 2008 10:12 am |
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Hi
I do agree with Sue!
However I have frequently seen the crosses and stars on the mount of Saturn on the hands of people who have the tendencies of infertility and Depression.
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Posted: Sat Apr 26th, 2008 10:35 am |
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Hi Murtaza
I don't know anything about being able to view infertility from the Saturn mount, but I can see why there might be an association with depression. Saturn is considered a gloomy planet, associated with one's conscience, doing the right thing, taking responsibility for one's actions and so on, so a vertical line would strengthen this aspect of the Saturnian character.
If you then add a horizontal line, considered to indicate a blocking of the free flow of this energy, then it has been suggested that this can indicate a person who gives up on their long term goals - if they have long term goals that is. Such a person might be only a short term planner, and as soon as something doesn't pan out or give instant results, they give up on their goal and try something else.
This constant giving up on goals can cause depression. So yes, a cross might be a combination of the two factors I have described.
I'm interested why fertility is associated with a cross on Saturn - can you give more info Murtaza?
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Posted: Sat Apr 26th, 2008 12:37 pm |
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Hi Sue
Will join you again as today I am very busy.
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Posted: Sun Apr 27th, 2008 12:01 pm |
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Hi Sue ,
This is just my humble view over the issue : -
Our 9 mounds deal with 100s of things on this planet we live on and many of them are still not surfaced. To me ,cross and star on Saturn are negative signs in any case which cause " hurdles & limitations ( Can also be infertility hurdles) , Chronic diseases ( can also be infertility , sterility)” . It also covers Minerals and other things under the soil , in our body ( that can be deficiencies of minerals in our body chemistry causing azospermia in men and deficiencies in egg producing in women)and destruction ( which can destruct human productivity / the chain of a generation) .All are well known negativities of Saturn. Star is an extreme version of cross whom you say explosion of energy. Whereas , depression is already agreed upon if there are defects on Saturn mount and we know depressive syndrome can be in any sort in our body, even depression in fertility, azospermia and sex(especially, Bio-logical or indigenous kind of depression) which is due to imbalance of serotonin level in our blood stream. I have seen this sign frequently on the hands of people having infertility problem, especially in men.
Hurdles, limitations, chronic diseases, and imbalance biochemistry are the possible indications of infertility, which are the negative traits of Saturn. But I always use to say no single sign in Palmistry can be depended upon but we must seek some other indications in palm to substantiate our reading. So , other indications in hand which can substantiate the infertility are as follows:-
1) Weak and low set little finger- which is also a sign of under developed sexual organs in both sex . Sometimes it causes Fibroid due to which mouth of Uterus / mouth of tube or Cervix blocks and sperms are not received in egg in tube during ovulation days . Communication indications are also in addition to these we know all.
2) Depressed mount of Venous ,which is a sign of vibrant sexual activity and productivity;
3) Bare heart line;
4) No vertical lines on lines of union and on mount of venous under thumb;
5) Defects on the base of moon ,which deals with lower portion of body and fluids;
6) Half life line lack of vital forces ;
7) Cross or star at the junction of Mercury and brain line;
8) Defects on Saturn including ,star cross.
If there are 2 or more indications are found in hand, we should give attention in this regard and if there are 3 or more signs, then we should not take it easy.
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Posted: Thu May 1st, 2008 11:40 pm |
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Hi Sue
I have finally secured myself a copy of Lori Reid's Complete Book of the Hand and am looking forward to receiving it.
Where can I find more information on the online courses you offer?
Thanks again
Miranda
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Posted: Mon May 12th, 2008 04:58 pm |
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My interpretation of the Star on the Saturn mount has actually a lot to do with being resourceful in my perception - 6 points going in 6 directions makes it possible for Saturn Star markers to access resources from many directions, thus making you a hub of the wheel.
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