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Posted: Thu Jan 24th, 2008 01:12 pm |
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Hey All
Here is hand print of Hillary Clinton for reading and comments of the members.
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Posted: Thu Jan 24th, 2008 01:36 pm |
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Posted: Mon Jan 28th, 2008 05:15 am |
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Neat pictures. Her hand speaks to me of practicality, no nonsense approach. Would take such a woman to keep her husband in check. 
Those hands could almost be mistaken for a man's if her face was not showing. They look like they can compete in size with Obama's, he will be in the fight of his life all the way to the end. I noticed the pointed pinky finger which speaks to me of laser accuracy; mercury is known for its eloquence with words, quick-thinking. No wonder she is so tough to deal with.
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Posted: Mon Jan 28th, 2008 12:38 pm |
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the Apollo and Jupiter fingers are more or less equal and bend towards Saturn finger, mercury finger is the straightest but just fairly long ,big thumb. are those i mention can be use as Indication for a person who is active in public?
the mounts are very develop and prominent, just like her cheeks
indeed i agree her hand look like a man hand, a strong figure
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Posted: Wed Jan 30th, 2008 11:08 pm |
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What a good idea- I hadn't thought of looking at public pictures of the candidates hands! Now I'm going to have to go look for pictures of McCain's and Obama's and the others' hands.
Actually, I am much reassured looking at her hand- yes, large thumb (would any candidate not have that? but overall it looks like the hand of a thinker. I wonder if there's a collection of prints of presidents somewhere?
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Posted: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 01:58 am |
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Is her thumb considered short? what about the upper mars mount? aggressive?
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Posted: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 05:08 am |
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cheiro8 wrote: Is her thumb considered short? what about the upper mars mount? aggressive?
I would not consider her thumb to be short. Most average thumbs reach to the middle of the bottom phlange of the index finger. I think its a rather strong thumb with good development. There is indeed a well developed lower mars, and it appears very "red" in the one of the pictures. I would say from that photo as a "yes"on the agressiveness, at least at that moment. She even looks perturbed about something in her facial expression. Interesting.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 09:57 am |
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Hi
I agree that thumb is not short but medium plus and at the same time bit stiff like ex-UK , P.M. Magge
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Posted: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 11:58 am |
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Yeah, maybe it looks short to me cos its thick.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 01:56 pm |
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Hello Cheiro8,
Then I guess you would call the thick thumbs of this litte creature ´short´ as well!
Yes, I agree with dwilson + GM ... especially the second photo APPEARS to indicate that Hillary Clinton's right thumb is not small at all.
However ... now I would like to make the confusion complete by posting another photo:
Who dare's ... to conclude anything regarding Hillary Clinton's thumb?
( PS. I think one should hesitate to draw conclusions from a few photo's )
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Posted: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 03:28 pm |
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Hi Martijn
I agree. Camera angles can be very misleading!
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Posted: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 03:35 pm |
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'CAMERA ANGLES' ... !!!
Thank you Susan.
Yes, indeed: CAMERA ANGLES explain indeed a significant part of the APPEARING variations of these photos.
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Posted: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 05:51 pm |
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| We certainly can't draw firm conclusions from snapshots- but I often find that you can't draw firm conclusions from prints either. So often what is spoken of as "this person changed between these prints" looks to me like vagaries in the printing process. On the other hand- the front on shot does show a reasonable waist to the thumb- good for diplomacy, and the sideways shot shows how much it tips/tapers back (not too much- which I think is a good thing. Color I expect changes more quickly than lines or shape- as in the face. Of course, moods can change some aspects of the face- like arousal filling out the lips. I expect some of that happens in hands as well, although we haven't built up a bunch of rules about it yet. Last edited on Thu Jan 31st, 2008 05:51 pm by Tchipakkan
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Posted: Thu Jan 31st, 2008 09:39 pm |
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Hello Chipakkan,
Thank you for your comments!
"We certainly can't draw firm conclusions from snapshots- but I often find that you can't draw firm conclusions from prints either. So often what is spoken of as "this person changed between these prints" looks to me like vagaries in the printing process."
(Yes, I think you're absolutely right - though not suitable to ALL cases presenting 'changes in the prints' which I have seen ... but we should create a new discussion to continue a debate about that topic)
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Posted: Fri Feb 1st, 2008 04:14 am |
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I have an idea. Shall we all put our heads together and list out the characteristics of what a President should have. Then we draw out the palmlines, and submit this to the NYT on behalf of this forum.
Shall we do this??
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Posted: Fri Feb 1st, 2008 08:16 am |
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Hi Cheiro8
Who or what is the NYT?
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Posted: Fri Feb 1st, 2008 10:50 am |
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NYT: New York Times...
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Posted: Fri Feb 8th, 2008 06:38 pm |
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DEAR FRIEND I HAVE VEIWED YOUR COMINTS.WHOLD YOU LIKE TO ANALIZE MY HAND
THANK YOU.
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Posted: Fri Feb 8th, 2008 07:25 pm |
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Hi Chaudhary and welcome to the community. 
I think it might be a good idea to read through the general rules of the community before continuing to post within the forums. They can be found at:
http://internationalcollegeofpalmistry.com/forum/forum87/3145.html
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Posted: Mon Feb 11th, 2008 12:36 pm |
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hmmmm... interesting hands. I note her Mecury finger is held back and apart, indicating a relationship which is testing her at the time the photo was taken. This may not be Bill Clinton, but her reationship to her party and supporters/detractors.
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Posted: Wed Feb 13th, 2008 02:59 pm |
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chaudhary khalil wrote: DEAR FRIEND I HAVE VEIWED YOUR COMINTS.WHOLD YOU LIKE TO ANALIZE MY HAND
THANK YOU.
CH.KHALIL
hello chaudhary khalil
I am pleased you found the forum. It may be a bit confusing at first - your message came into the Hilary Clinton discusson. First you can go to the new members page and introduce yourself here
http://internationalcollegeofpalmistry.com/forum/forum124/
then if you post the handprints you sent me and ask your questions here
http://internationalcollegeofpalmistry.com/forum/forum126/
I am sure someone will try to help you when they get time.
best wishes
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Posted: Sat Feb 16th, 2008 07:21 pm |
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1) Note the fate line which seems to cut off or atleast get dominated by her heart line ??? Bill, are you reading ?
2) Her life line doesnt look too long to me ...
3) Frankly, I dont see her coming anywhere near Obama in the election. Obama's hand is much superior. Havent seen hands of other candidates.
4) About the masculine hand ...Well, I have seen many western women have slightly more masculine features than most women from other cultures (asian, african, south american?)
Just denotes their 'drive to fulfill their desires and get what they want at all costs'.
5) Just has 1 bracelet...doesnt reflect much on what she says or does ... impulsive, also, mercury finger is independent. She will also be quite eloquent...
6) No conspicuous sun line
7) Notice also the slightly weak venus mount
8) Jupiter finger leans towards saturn. Also, notice, lines from mars mount towards a) life line and b) saturn
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Posted: Thu May 8th, 2008 10:50 pm |
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... ok here we go again:
During the past week I have found much more info & interesting photo's related to Hillary's hand:
I have 4 points to make:
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So far, in this discussion we only were able to see Hillary's RIGHT HAND
(all posted photo's were focussed on her right, and by the way, for your info: yes, Hillary is right-handed).
2
Years ago Israelian psychologist Arnold Holtzman (PDC) made a Hand Analysis of Hillary's hands ... actually Arnold as well focussed on her RIGHT HAND only.
You can read Arnold's analysis of Hillary's hand right here:
http://www.pdc.co.il/hillary.htm
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A few months ago Hand Analyst Leslie Zemenek from the USA was able to get her hands on a very clear photo of Hillary's hand ... actually ... on the photo below you can see that is was Hillary's LEFT HAND!!!:
Please take a close look at Hillary's left hand, and you will probably notice the 'simianesque' constellation in the head + heart line:
Why not ... let's call it a simian line!
Interestingly, in her article Leslie has relates this hand feature to the fact that the image of Hillary Clinton is often described with the word 'polarizing'.
You can read Leslie's analysis of Hillary's hand right here (it is a very comprehensive article including lot's of illustrations):
http://www.handresearch.com/news/the-real-hillary-clinton.htm
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A few weeks ago Italian chirologist Valerija Brkljac presented an article about Hillary's hands in a Italian magazine.
And thanks to GOOGLE (more specific: 'the google translation tool') I was able to create a translation of the article - which includes a very nice graphic illustration of Hillary's hand:
And luckily ... I was able a to find a photo (the left photo above) which is likely used by the illustrator who create the graphic.
Valerija Brkljac focusses on 5 features of Hillary's hand, including the simian line (in the illustration: point 2), and on the basis of these 5 hand features Valerija is very optimistic about Hillary's chances against Barack Obama.
By the way, I saw Bill yesterday on television backing his wife with a  , after the elections in Indiana & West Virginia ... not sure that he is still that optimistic)
Anyway, you can read Leslie's analysis of Hillary's hands (actually: my translation of the Italian article) right here:
http://www.handresearch.com/news/hillary-clinton-hand.htm
 ... have fun!
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