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Benazir Bhutto - PalmPrint of Destiny
Her destiny was intertwined with that of Pakistan - a political murder.


Author: T. Stokes

Benazir Bhutto's Palmprint was taken when she was a student at Oxford, many years ago after University debate.

As you probably know, her assassinated on December 27, 2007 - put the world into a shock.

Palmist T. Stokes - from the UK - presented this article recently because he appears to have the original PalmPrint of the lady who will likely be remembered as the most famous woman in the history of Pakistan.

You can read T. Stokes analysis of the print here:

Benazir Bhutto - PalmPrint of Destiny

http://www.handresearch.com/news/benazir-bhutto-palmprint-of-destiny.htm

 

PS. The picture below includes a photo of Benazir Bhutto during her student years at Oxford.




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 Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 04:14 pm

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Hi,

I am very thankful to all your efforts and benazir's picture.As for the " Print of her Palm",, I am not quite sure about its authencity.

The site and reading about Stokes' comment,,well... some thing was missing and some thing was added.

e.g. on Comment 3 , he predicted a Shy person,,which is not so ( she was dashing ),,also talking about Saturn and other stuff ( not acceptable to me)..

For the cause of her death in that fashion,,we must have both palms,,also there must be some    THING    on her life line or head line.

If we observe minutely the size & shape of the Thumb in the print is different from her picture. :yay

The index finger or Jupiter must have been longer than the ringer finger , which is not so in the print.  :titter

Most probably the real print is misplaced some where else and he used an old copy.

                                                      :awesome

 



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 Posted: Wed Apr 30th, 2008 08:39 pm

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hi benarzer butto photos.

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Hi Sunny

Thanks for  photos  :ty

Now I am 100% positive that the controversial hand print does not belong To the Late PM.  :thumbsup



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5starz wrote: Hi Sunny

Thanks for  photos  :ty

Now I am 100% positive that the controversial hand print does not belong To the Late PM.  :thumbsup


Hello 5starz,

Thanks for your comments so far, and I want you to know that I support your efforts to examine the authenticity of the print.

However, can you please explain a bit more WHAT EXACTLY brings you to the conclusion that the in the article presented handprint is not authentic?

For, regarding the photo's posted so far, only the 3th photo can be used to examine the authenticity of the handprint ... of Benazir Bhutto's left hand!

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hi  everybody .in photos her life line was very short. her sun line was big.she had mole on suturn mount. any comments?

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 Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 01:13 am

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Regarding any further attempt to question the authenticity of the PalmPrint in the article ... please focuss your search on photo's of Benazir Bhutto's LEFT hand - for the PalmPrint is made of her LEFT hand.

A list of photo's of her left hand:









Some observations of similarities between these photo's and the PalmPrint:

Point 1: The last photo does show a very long 'mars line' ('minor earth line'), which is also present on the PalmPrint.

Point 2: Especially the first photo shows a long heart line with a branch ending in de lower part of the zone under the index finger, which is also present on the PalmPrint.

Point 3: I also observe parallels regarding the path of the headline on the photo's and the PalmPrint.

Point 4: The 3th zone of the index finger is very prominent (thick + wide) on the photos and the PalmPrint.

Point 5: Regarding the length of the life line, from these LEFT-HAND photo's I can see NO CLEAR EVIDENCE which contradicts the life line on the PalmPrint.




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Last edited on Fri May 2nd, 2008 01:15 am by hand_research



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 Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 10:45 am

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I am ashamed to say that I did not know much about this woman prior to her assasination; looking at these photos has sparked some interest for me.

I have noted that her lunar mount looks red to me in almost all of those photos.

As far as authenticity of the palm print...sure does look like her hand to me.



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 Posted: Fri May 2nd, 2008 12:17 pm

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Hi Den,

Yes, the red colour got my attention as well. I think this might be one of the key-factors which explain her extraordinary behaviour - since her assassination was not the first moment that put her country into a shock ... :surprised

Thanks for your input!

 



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Dear Hand Research :wave

I want you to verify certain things about her life (sorry I am not aware of her life details). I want to authenticate the validity if the hand pic you posted on the first post of of the PM or not.

According to the hand print, this person left her country for study in college and then at about 28th year of her life returned back to her country and got a deep interest into a kind of activity which could have been politics. :surprised

If you can please verify this incident with her life and if it is correct :thumbup, then it is late PM hand, else not :tease




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Hello PredictGuru,

A short biography of Benazir Bhutto's life is presented at wikipedia, I would like to invite you to check/varify your comments by yourself:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benazir_Bhutto


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Dear Hand Research :wave

I am not sure this is PM hand as all lines are not clear. But it is the hand of someone who had spent the most part of her education and had been actively into politics or something which needs great command from 28th age and at that time returned to country. This hand owner also had person security problems from her late 30s and it is quite possible died with injury to head. :thumbsdown

Thanks for giving links for the article :clap




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Personally, I dont really care if this is really Ms Butto's hand or not. Until and unless no one comes forward with the a factual finding that this is NOT Ms Butto's hand till then we are no one to defy claims.

Besides, I read on the news that she had been exiled out of her country for many years. The security issue that is coming up could be due to the exile.

 

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Hello GM and Jasmin ... this is the discussion I mentioned in my earlier post today.

( http://internationalcollegeofpalmistry.com/forum/forum149/3465.html )

Please take a look at the photos of Benazir Bhutto's LEFT HAND.

(for the PalmPrint is her LEFT HAND!)



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Left hand Pics of Benazir Bhutoo

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Hi All

We can compare the prints and pictures of BN Bhutoo's hand for this purpose.

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Hi all

In spite of all, we can learn a lot from her hand prints.I will try to Meet very aged Mr.M.A.Malik, who had the opportunity to see her hands two times.

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Hello GM, 

I think it would be great to here some response from Mr. Malik!!! Let's hope that he can confirm the authenticity of the palm print in the article (though I have no reasons at all to question the author of the article, palmist T. Stokes from the UK).

Regards from The Netherlands!

 



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Hi GM,

Just wondering, have you been able to contact Mr. Malik about the hands of Benazir Bhutto?

 

SOME UPDATED INFO:

By the way, this week I have received comments from various sources who have informed me that Benazir Bhutto's palmprint was taken quite a few times during her lifetime ... and the authenticy of the palmprint presented by T. Stokes (in his article described above) has also been confirmed by a hand reader who met Benazir Bhutto several times!

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Dear palmists,

if you compare the print with the fotos you have to consider that she hold the hand not stright to the arm while the print was taken as you can mention.
If we are not careful with this we come to wrong conclusions. While comparing the finger lengths we have to take always cars, that the hand lies stright along the arms and not sideward in any kind!

I think the print and hand on the photo are the same.

If your looking for foresight of the time point of her dead, you'll find it exact at the live line crossed by the Mercury line. - When I mentioned it first at Martijns website I was very astonished that we can foresee a critical point in her live (if it wasn't manipulated afterwards) and I studied her biographiy meticulously.

If there is a wish I could also put in her birth and even the exact (!) dead charts here (she died with 54) I draw after the public proclamation in the news that time.

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Manfred wrote: Dear palmists,

if you compare the print with the fotos you have to consider that she hold the hand not stright to the arm while the print was taken as you can mention.
If we are not careful with this we come to wrong conclusions. While comparing the finger lengths we have to take always cars, that the hand lies stright along the arms and not sideward in any kind! ....


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Thanks Manfred,

I think your comments on 'finger lengths' were in response to GM's attempt to make a comparision between the fingerlength on the palmprint and in the various photos - I could describe this attempt as a 'mission impossible'. So, I fully agree with your words!

On top of this I want to notice here that the other participants in this discussion appear to have limited their search for similarities between the palmprint and the photos to the palmar lines!



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