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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 12:09 am |
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I'll check at your site, which by the way looks quite "spiffy" these days  .
Learning fingerprints has been an excellent direction, almost like an entire hand reading science all by itself. Are these in MP3 format? I think it would be quite beneficial to hear some recordings of some actual readings from some of the professionals here, that would be quick advancement 101. These Lifeprint readings have been so much fun, I am so grateful for all the participation; it has made the learning process so much more interesting.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 03:05 am |
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Hi Pamelah,
Thank you very much for your respond, please see attached pictures below of my Righ pinky and mercury mount, It is showing the lines that I mistakenly took as Lines of Genius and Medical Stigma.
I do have a question though: Does Hal 9000 syndrome has any other symptoms beside very good visual and hearing memory? 
I am just curious. For me, this past couple of moths, and especially last week were like the road to self-discovery, so many surprises, that are becoming very hard to chew and swallow.Attached Image (viewed 112 times):
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 03:09 am |
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Pamela Said:
“10 loops doesn’t get much higher in the school of love – and it’s both life purpose and life lesson – not that common.” and “…the impact of having 10 loops, which in itself is a very big deal and deserves much time.”
Hi Den / Pamella,
Can anyone explain to me little bit more crealry about 10 loops, I do not have Richard’s book, so I cannot look it up, sorry for bothering you,
He is my son and I am slightly worried, even though he is only 6 and I know that he has whole life ahead.
I will attach his prints later tomorrow, since he is already sleeping, just to make sure that what I see is exactly what it is.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 06:33 am |
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| Yes, they are MP3 files - I didn't do actual readings but talk in great depth about aspects of the finger prints markings. For example with Apollo (the first one I did) I go into the Apollo characteristics of being an artist and what that means, what being an innovator means, what are the student and master path behaviors of both left and right Apollo. It's much more than Richard could do in his book. Like I've shared in ohter posts, he had to take out so much to have the book edited and published.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 06:34 am |
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Den wrote: I'll check at your site, which by the way looks quite "spiffy" these days .
Thank you - these files are not available on my web site - you need to contact me directly to get them. I've been teaching this class and the members of the class are paying for my time and information so they are for sale, not free. Just wanted to clarify that.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 06:37 am |
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I see the Medical Stigmata with a closer look. Thanks for sharing - the Gifted Healer, sharing psychological insights. The Lines of Genius is borderline. The lines really need to be 3 parallel lines that go at least half way up the top section of the Mercury finger. I see two strong lines and one that is tilted. But I'm sure you have access to being able to interpret abstract concepts into easy to understand language.
Hal 9000 is about needing to solve big complex, complicated problems.
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Posted: Tue Jul 22nd, 2008 06:39 am |
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Helen B wrote: Pamela Said:
“10 loops doesn’t get much higher in the school of love – and it’s both life purpose and life lesson – not that common.” and “…the impact of having 10 loops, which in itself is a very big deal and deserves much time.”
Hi Den / Pamella,
Can anyone explain to me little bit more crealry about 10 loops, I do not have Richard’s book, so I cannot look it up, sorry for bothering you,
He is my son and I am slightly worried, even though he is only 6 and I know that he has whole life ahead.
I will attach his prints later tomorrow, since he is already sleeping, just to make sure that what I see is exactly what it is.
Helen, when you have his prints it will be worth spending time on the discussion of 10 loops. If he has something else, that would be a better use of time.
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 02:32 am |
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Hi,
I am attaching my son's finger prints. Here is his Right HandAttached Image (viewed 103 times):
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 02:49 am |
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 Hi Helen, how many pieces of candy did it take to get those pictures?
Looks like a lot of loops, but the left index looks like a peacock eye to me. We will get many opinions I am sure.
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 03:39 am |
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Hi Den,
it was not candy, it was kisses and hugs. 
About the Left Jupiter, I also thought that it is a peacock, however after closer look I could not find second triradii.
By shape It reminds me my Left Jupiter Finger Print. However I could be wrong.
So far do you agree that rest finger prints are loops?Last edited on Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 11:11 am by Helen B
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 04:45 am |
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| I agree that Jupiter is more peacock like but not quite a peacock so it's going to be the highest ranked fingerprints. Is it radial? It looks like it could be. That would secure it as the Life Purpose - living his passions, standing in his authority.
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 04:50 am |
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Does that means that he will have emotional barriers in his life? Is it same as for people with 8 or 9 loops, but even stronger?
I am little bit confused,
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Posted: Wed Jul 23rd, 2008 05:06 am |
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| Emotional issues isn't exactly the right phrase. It's like I've shared in other posts leraning to trust his emotoionaly self, feeling safe to express is the most important thing in his life. And his fear ofloss of love will be his biggest challenge. Having basically 10 loops is a geometric step above having 9 because there is no focus other than on loops.
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 01:23 pm |
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Pamelah Landers wrote: Thank you - these files are not available on my web site - you need to contact me directly to get them. I've been teaching this class and the members of the class are paying for my time and information so they are for sale, not free. Just wanted to clarify that.
 So there is no "five-finger discount" on the recordings? (please excuse my strange sense of humor Pamelah)
I remember seeing those at your site, and certain they are excellent. I will give it a look and send you a private message about it. Thanks again.
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 01:57 pm |
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Helen B wrote: Hi Den,
About the Left Jupiter, I also thought that it is a peacock, however after closer look I could not find second triradii.
I second that!!! I had the same impression at first but then looked for the second triradii and it did not fit
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 05:32 pm |
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Pamelah wrote:
"leraning to trust his emotoionaly self, feeling safe to express is the most important thing in his life. And his fear ofloss of love will be his biggest challenge. "
So as per my understanding this would be his life lesson and :
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"the Life Purpose - living his passions, standing in his authority."
I do have a question though, is there any particular path he has to take in his life? I am not really clear about his passions and standing in his authority?
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 05:40 pm |
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Hi Pamelah,
After thinking it over I kind of understanding a connection between my finger prints on Right Thumb and Jupiter with Hal 9000 (needing to solve gib comples complicated problems) and borderline of Lines of Geniuse (access to being able to imterpret abstract concepts into easy to understand language), however I am lost with the Medical Stigmata ( the Gifted Healer, sharing psychological insights)
Any thoughts about a purpose of Medical Stigmata and its connection with my purpose being on this planet in this body?
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 08:00 pm |
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| This is one of those really non-specific life purposes/life lessons - it's just about what I've shared and doesn't matter the field he chooses - the working environment would be more important than the working content
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 09:41 pm |
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So since he has 10 loops, he will be mostly in search for emotional comfort / right environment without any particular goal, direction, talent, skills. Am I right?
I may not expressing my question clearly. In my case, I have my higher ranked prints (whorls) on Right Thumb and Index finger, so it is adding a quality of Leadership and Doer (Master of success) to my personality / character. After finding and succeeding with my Life Lesson, I may fully attain my Life Purpose.
Now he has 10 loops and his highest rang print is a radial loop is on Left Index Finger. So does that mean that he does not have any particular direction and may be very passive in his life?
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Posted: Thu Jul 24th, 2008 11:21 pm |
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This is actually getting too complicated to answer here for me - that is why I do private readings with people.
For clarification, Life Purpose defined by fingerprints is much more than personality. It's a soul agreement. Fingerprints are fully formed 16 weeks after conception and never change. After the fingerprints are formed, then the lines start forming and they can change. The lines and hand shape are more about personality. The Soul Agreement/Life Purpose/Soul Contract is a different energy all together than the personality.
The second awareness that's important is that you will ALWAYS be acting out your Life PUrpose and Life Lesson. You could be acting out Life Purpose behavior one minute and then the Life Lesson stuff shows up so it's not that it's ever over or you ar done with the Life Lesson.
"Facing your life lesson" actually means becoming conscious of the obstacles they present, acknowledge them and then take integrate some consciousness about how you get there. It will never be true that your Life Lesson is complete. There will alwasy be Life Lesson things that pop up. It's a matter of awareness to not let it get in your way of your Life Purpose.
The value of private readings is so that you can delve into your personal hand - the entire hand - in relationship to your fingerprints. It's too much to do in this format.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28th, 2008 07:19 pm |
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Hi Den,
I got the Richard Unger's book, and found it fasinating. Do you know the term "like mother like daughter?" (I hope I am correct with my interpretation) Well my daughter is a "Big Shot" just like me.
So do you think that our ginetics playing some kind of role in fingerprint development? It is facinating to know that sertain palm lines, patterns are repeating themselves and continue in our children.
Very interesting cuinsidence with me and my daughter.
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Posted: Mon Jul 28th, 2008 08:01 pm |
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| Genetics do play a part but it's not the entire picture. I know this because I'm one of six children and I have hand prints and fingeprints for all of us plus my parents and there is very little related to genetics involved. And it can happen, no doubt. But it's not all the time. Richard estimates about 30% of hands markings, including fingeprints, are genetic.
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