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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 03:23 am |
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Right Hand (from thumb to pinky):
whorl, whorl, loop, loop, loop
Left Hand (from thumb to pinky):
loop, loop, loop, loop, loop.
Okay, got your prints ID'd with the help of my brilliant and wonderful assistants Martijn and Lynn. Why do I keep hearing the theme song to the TV show "Love Boat"?
Let's count the different patterns.
Loops = 8 whorls = 2 everything else = 0
8 loops puts you in the School of Love. The obvious key element to you living your life purpose will be related to this theme of love and closeness. It will be your greatest asset or your greatest nemesis. It has everything to do with how you connect to other people, authentic expression, vulnerability skills, and mastering your emotions in general.
Highest ranking prints occur at the whorls on right thumb and right index. That pattern is an archetype..."The Big Shot" or "The Effective Leader" It combines "The Doer" with "The Leader" as highest ranking prints. Wow...that's interesting. It is quite clear from the archetype that setting goals and personal accomplishment is going to be a key theme here. Your Life purpose...
Become the "Effective Leader" (The Big Shot).
Become the high achiever in whatever field you choose. If you sing, then sing the lead role, if you are a professor then become the best in your field of study, if you are a sales person then take home the sales trophy every year and become the CEO. Be the person that everyone counts on to get things done right, every time, and on time. So far so good? Comments?
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Last edited on Thu Jul 17th, 2008 03:29 am by Den
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 03:48 am |
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Wow, that is Wow,
Definitely could not predict that for myself,
"A Big Shot with a Love Shot" or "A Love Shot in a Big Shot"?
    
But to be serious, it is amazing. I have to think about it, I do not know what to say, I am shocked.
Thank you Den, incredible job, two thumbs up to you 
And how can I forget your outstanding assistants? Thank you very much

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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 03:52 am |
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Den, you've learned well from Richard's book! I'd just like to add that 8 loops is not only the school of love but your Life Lesson so that means that you are highly vulnerable to being motivated by the 'fear of loss of love' - choosing not to share how you authentically feel because you are afraid you won't be loved. Having 9 loops myself, I can tell you I'm an expert in this area! Only recently have I learned to find the emotional safety inside myself, which is what is required, to actually risk sharing how I feel when it's hard to share. And we are not talking about what you think, but how you feel - very different things.
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 03:53 am |
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| One more thing - in Richard's system of fingerprints, which he designed, the Life Lesson needs to be addressed when it pops up in order to fully attain your Life Purpose.
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 06:36 am |
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Awesome Pamelah, that was perfect way to descibe it. I have to break these readings up into small chunks, us "rookies" have to study some before we can post the lesson and the life-fulfillment statements . But you are absolutely right, her entire life lesson will be related to the school of love too much/little phrase because she has the 7 or more loops.
Life Lesson...
Explosion and stuffed feelings.
That is a direct quote from the book. There is probably a sexier way of expressing it, but I like this one for now. Definetly read what Pamelah wrote on it up above. Progress in the life lesson opens up the Life Purpose and the potential that it has. Emotional mastery is the key to unlocking the highly effective person described in your Life Purpose. You seemed surprised with the findings above, but think about what is preventing you from becoming the "Big Shot" and it should be related to the feelings. Explosion occurs when there is too much emotions boiling up, and stuffed feelings relates to being authentic and vulnerable as Pamelah was saying earlier.
We can elaborate more on this, thanks Pamelah for chiming in on this, if there is a better way to express her lesson, I am interested in hearing it. Next step would be to tie it all in with a Fulfillment statement, but I will have to stew on it some and so should you, its a really a lot to think about so far.
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 03:00 pm |
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| You are doing well with it, Den. That's how you learn. Practice, Practice, Practice. I will add one more thing about loops - emotional safety is the key to success. If you do any personal growth work, focus on feeling emotionally safe inside of yourself and the rest of the requirements for success with revealing authentic feelings will manifest. I know. I have 9 loops and have done that work myself. It changed my life to become more of my Life Purpose (Sharing my spiritual wisdom with the public through leadership). I'm including Gift Markings as part of my Life Purpose because Gift Markings, if you have them, are a HUGE piece of satisfying living. I have written a book on Gift Markings because I have so many and needed a way to grasp the master and student paths. And now I really appreciate, 17 years after learning about them, the significant role they play. On my web site http://www.handsoncompany.com, on the products page there is a map of the Gift Markings.
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 04:16 pm |
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Hi Pamelah,
Thank you very much for your input.
I did find myslef having a fear on not being loved especially in childhood and yearly adult life. Most amazing thing is that it changed after I had my children. What I realized is: "what you give is what you get". If I will have a love from my kids, I can live. What my lesson I guess is to transfer that ideology into a bigger skale, that may be little bit challenging for me, but at least I know where I have to go now.
Ha, my first life goal
Once again, thank you 
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 04:23 pm |
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Hi Den,
You are right that I was surprised on my life purpose, but not just because of emotions, but because of my observations. I found people with the “Big Shot” attitude / personality / life goal to be overpowered by their EGO and I cannot stand that.
I can only feel blessed to be in the school of LOVE with Life purpose like this.
I would definitely meditate on LOVE, my closeness and connection to people and emotions.
At least now I understand why I have very well developed Jupiter mount and multiple Jupiter Affection Lines (from Life Line to Jupiter Mount). It’s kind of make sense.
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 04:24 pm |
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| I also see those lines going to Jupiter from the Life Line as ambition lines.
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 04:30 pm |
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That is exactly what puzzels me. For most of my life I was considered most NOT ambitios person. I never had any particular desire to be the ONE, I still do not have any goals to achieve. I found myself always going with the flow. However my life happened to put me in the situations were I had no other choice as to overpower barriers, but it was mostly because of survival and not ambition. I do have strong survival instincts and sence of responsibility
(could it be considered as an ambition ?).
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Posted: Thu Jul 17th, 2008 06:20 pm |
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Hi Pamelah, thanks for the input. Helen and the others have signed up to me my guinea pigs for my readings, so the practice has been great.
Helen, I wouldn't look at it as the person on an ego trip or has to outdo everyone at all costs necessarily, but rather as someone that has this great capability to perform at a high level. The natural attributes filter through an individuals personality. I would meditate on the terms.
It is just like when some people have strong jupiter character or strong thumbs in palmistry, they could be arrogant, or they could be more balanced, but it will add leadership with determination qualities to everything they do. I do not know what your profession is or hobbies, but one can be an effective leader without becoming Donald Trump, could come in the form of the Big shot at the school bakesale .
Try to embrace the qualities some and see if it changes your perception, and think of the purpose in its most positive light. I will pull it all together tonight.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 12:00 am |
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Helen,
Den's readings take some time to get your head around eh. Some thoughts I had reading thru yours .... tell me if it makes no sense to you. ;-)
Pamelah Landers wrote:
I also see those lines going to Jupiter from the Life Line as ambition lines.
Helen wrote
For most of my life I was considered most NOT ambitios person.... However my life happened to put me in the situations were I had no other choice as to overpower barriers, but it was mostly because of survival and not ambition.
I see lines rising up from lifeline as effort lines, a time when you get all your energy together and really "go" for something in a determined way. Going towards Jupiter they are usually some ambition to improve yourself and your situation, to rise higher in life some way. You often see them when people go to Uni - academic effort to improve their situation for the future. It doesn't have to be ambition as "I want to be the boss", just some effort to make your life better in some way. Maybe you want more for yourself & your children than your formative influences were able to provide for you, a better lifestyle. It's like a "Look out world, here I come, I am going to do something for ME" big life effort!!!
Helen said
I found people with the “Big Shot” attitude / personality / life goal to be overpowered by their EGO and I cannot stand that.
I don't know if it helps, but I will share with you a lesson my friend taught me many years ago. I was preparing to do a talk on hand analysis. I was incredibly nervous and thought I couldn't go ahead with it. My friend said "You'll be fine, you know more about your subject than they do, go and sock it to 'em. Just let go of your ego"
I said "If I had a big ego it wouldn't be a problem! I'd be so big headed and confident that I wouldn't worry, I would just go and do it." She said "It's only your ego that cares what other people think". That phrase shut me up!!! It has stayed with me ever since!
She was right of course. My ego feared lack of approval! So having a big ego doesn't necessarily mean being big headed or confident! Applying this to your reading, I wonder if the ego bit fits in with the fear of not being loved / needing approval? If these "love" needs and fears get in the way, they can inhibit your ability to be a Big Shot? But as you have this natural giving, loving nature, setting the cares of the sensitive vulnerable ego aside could bring you into the position of natural effective leader. Again, it doesn't have to be leader in the sense of 'Director of International Company', it could be leading by example in any field of life.
???? dunno, just my thoughts !!!! also an exercise for me in trying to analyse & understand this new way (to me) of looking at hands via Richard's lifeprint analysis. There are so many ways that the simple but profound sentences of the Life School / Purpose / Lesson could be interpreted!
Sorry Den I know I didn't give you much feedback for my reading yet .....I'll get around to thinking about my own eventually !! (altho of course what I've written here is also relevant to my own reading)
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 03:37 am |
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Hi Lynn,
Thank you for your input, really appreciate it. Your explanation of lines rising up from lifeline towards Jupiter is closer to my personality. My concentration is mostly academic and I believe in knowledge and human relations (ha here is my school of LOVE I guess).  
In my life I just realized that material things are not permanent and can become very addictive and destructive (if are playing a leading role in life).
Loved your important lesson, it is so true. Thank you for sharing it with me.
Lynn said:
"I wonder if the ego bit fits in with the fear of not being loved / needing approval. " (sorry do not know how to make a Beautiful green box like you all do when copying comments)
I am not quiet sure about it. It is interesting, but analyzing my past I realized that once again my life was putting me in the positions / situations were I could not understand or explain them differently . I did feel misunderstood and hurt a lot of time (I guess because my sensitivity to other people emotions and myself), however I learned how to interpret it as a lesson, and not do same to other people. My dilemma is that the desire not to hurt others is actually hurting me sometimes. Is this were my Ego is hiding?
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 04:03 am |
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Lynn wrote:
Sorry Den I know I didn't give you much feedback for my reading yet .....I'll get around to thinking about my own eventually !! 
I am not even sure I understand mine completely Lynn.
Hi Helen, I thought a good Life Fulfillment formula would be simply...
Master your emotions and become the Effective Leader
That keeps it in its simplist form, yet leaves room for exploration as we both get further understanding in this. Any comments? suggestions?
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 04:25 am |
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Den said:
“I wouldn't look at it as the person on an ego trip or has to outdo everyone at all costs necessarily, but rather as someone that has this great capability to perform at a high level. The natural attributes filter through an individuals personality.”
Hi Den,
Thank you for above.
 
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 04:29 am |
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Hi Den,
My Life Fulfillment sound good, have to think it over though. 
Once again thank you for your time and great reading
 
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 05:30 am |
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| I'd like to add that Jupiter (leadership) isn't about ego in the negative way. It's about confidence and sometimes that looks egotistical to people who are confidence-challenged.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 12:44 pm |
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Your welcome Helen, it has been fun doing these readings for the memebers here in PI. I appreciate the input and comments from everyone so far, and hope you take something positive away from the experience.
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Posted: Fri Jul 18th, 2008 01:05 pm |
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Pamelah Landers wrote: I'd like to add that Jupiter (leadership) isn't about ego in the negative way. It's about confidence and sometimes that looks egotistical to people who are confidence-challenged.
I like that word "confidence-challenged" Pamelah. Sounds like a good book title "Leadership for the Confidence-Challenged" Thanks for your input in these readings, it has been very helpful to me and my willing subjects.
Lynn, thank you for the input I admired what you said...
It's like a "Look out world, here I come, I am going to do something for ME" big life effort!!!
That sounds like a great motivational book title too.
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Hi Den,
I hope you do not mind, but I looked through the Richard Unger’s book on-line, just to get better understanding of the meaning. I was very surprised reading about thumb qualities (thumb is the only part that is available on-line). Most of it is so close to my personality. I was mislead by the term “Muster of Success”. I hope you will find my comments helpful in your learning process
Comments from Richard Unger Book:
- Turn ideas into reality
So true, no matter how unrealistic thing can seem, I always find the way to make it happen especially at work
- Take personal responsibility for seeing things through to completion
True, can not sit still or sleep well if know that something is not complete, however do not like long-term projects, like to see immediate or fast results (here could be an emotions that need little work)
Masters of Success Are Happiest When…
- Immersed in a project
So true, I look at projects as challenges that need to be turned into reality / life
- Using skills or learning new ones
So true, constant learning is my oxygen.
- Energizing others with a natural enthusiasm
So true, especially if there is new challenging project at work
Common Obstacles
- Following an unsuitable career path, for instance, attempting to fulfill someone else’s goals instead of your own
So True, I work in Fashion, career that was given to me because of my mother’s dream (she is a reason though why I have very strong foundation in that field). Did not have other choice as too take this path due to lack of U.S education (hoping to fix that part sometime soon)
- Relying on unreliable people
Hmm.. not sure about that, so far I rely on myself (hm.. may be here where my school of LOVE / emotions can step in)
- Stopping just short of success
So True, planning to quit Fashion even though extremely good at it
- Becoming ruined by your success
Did not get there yet, let’s hope will survive 
That is all that I found on-line on the thumb. I will let you know about Index finger once purchase the book for my personal library.
Let me know what you think. I hope I was some kind of help.
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Posted: Sat Jul 19th, 2008 05:16 am |
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“I’m including Gift markings as part of my Life Purpose because Gift Markings, if you have them, are a HUGE piece of satisfying living.”
I looked at your web site, and I think I do have some Gift Markings, so far I found # 10 Medical Stigmata (Gifted Healer) and # 11 Lines of Genius (Interpreter/Translator/Decoder), however there is a big chance that I am mistaken or misunderstanding something. I posted my handprints on this forum earlier
http://internationalcollegeofpalmistry.com/forum/forum126/3346.html
just wondering if I have any "Gift Markings" and how I can connect them with my "Life Purpose"
Thank you for your inputs

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