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Posted: Sat Aug 16th, 2008 10:32 pm |
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Hi,
I put together a Life Purpose , Life Lesson and Life Fulfillment formula based on the fingerprint identification that was confirmed by Martijn (thanks Martijn for your help)
Please keep in mind it is my first try.
Den, Pamelah, everybody, please fill free to add your comments.
Finger Prints from thumb to pinky
Right Hand: whorl, whorl, double loop, whorl, double loop
Left Hand: whorl, whorl, whorl, whorl, double loop.
Your prints put you in the School of Service:
Objective for School of Service is to become a mast of service consciousness.
Find a way to be of service without feeling controlled by the needs of everybody around you. As you progress, as servitude and self-indulgence decreases, life satisfaction increases, and so ability to de service gets better as more of your personal talents emerge and particular service for which you are most suited comes into focus.
Highest ranking prints accrue on the fingers that belong to two archetypes “Prima Donna” and “The Mentor”
I guess your Life Purpose could be….
Succeeding in the Spotlight and operate at the highest levels of integrity no matter the circumstance.
Life Lesson:
I guess your life lesson will be based on ability to speak out (Self-Worth + Speaking Up = what I Say Matters).
“What I have to say is important”
People with that kind of print combinations are challenge to believe in the tangible value of their communications.
Life Fulfillment formula:
Believe in the value of what you have to say and speak it out loud.
I am sure there is more have to be added, I will look at it more later today and tomorrow.
Den, Lynn, Pamelah please feel free to add more. I would really appreciate itLast edited on Sat Aug 16th, 2008 10:34 pm by Helen B
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Posted: Sun Aug 17th, 2008 07:22 am |
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WOW, that was terrific Helen.
I am going to hopefully check out the prints myself and look at the analysis, but very good. I understand what kind of "effort" it takes to crank out a reading like that.
Den
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Posted: Sun Aug 17th, 2008 12:34 pm |
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Hi Den,
Now I understand what kind of effort from your side it was to put Life Purpose / Life Lesson for members of PI community. There is so much to say, and at the same time there is nothing to say.
P.S. by the way this prints are same as for famous scientist, I am sure you will find it in the book
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Posted: Sun Aug 17th, 2008 11:16 pm |
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Great breakdown of all those whorls, The Big Shot plus the artist is the Prima Donna and then the mentor is also represented. I would also add that since there are 7 of the highest ranking prints, the whorls, that joyous service is the entire focus of the Life Purpose and the perfect expression of his qualities you brought out will be directed to others, that which is outside ourselves, bringing fulfillment. That was a really good reading Vijay.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 06:24 pm |
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Helen B wrote: Hi Den,
Now I understand what kind of effort from your side it was to put Life Purpose / Life Lesson for members of PI community. There is so much to say, and at the same time there is nothing to say.
P.S. by the way this prints are same as for famous scientist, I am sure you will find it in the book
Hi Helen,
Are you referring to this :
Albert Einstein
 
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 07:27 pm |
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Hi Vijay Goel,
Yes I was refiring to the finger prints of Albert Einstein.
I guess you can learn something from his life experience as well.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 08:26 pm |
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Helen B wrote: Hi Den,
Now I understand what kind of effort from your side it was to put Life Purpose / Life Lesson for members of PI community. There is so much to say, and at the same time there is nothing to say.
P.S. by the way this prints are same as for famous scientist, I am sure you will find it in the book
Helen (and Mr. Vijay Goel) ...  ,
Vijay Goel's fingerprints are:
Right Hand: whorl, whorl, double loop, whorl, double loop
Left Hand: whorl, whorl, whorl, whorl, double loop.
Albert Einstein's fingerprints are:
http://www.dermatoglyphics.com/epf/
Right Hand: whorl, whorl, loop, whorl, loop
Left Hand: whorl, whorl, whorl, whorl, loop
 Same??? I would say ... quite big difference!
(I think you got confused somewhere in Richard's symbols for Einstein's fingerprints ... )
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 10:40 pm |
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Hi Martijn,
I know what you are talking about, and this is were I got little bit confused (I guess I am still little bit confused) with Richard Unger's theory.
He is using the highest rank prints to identify Life Purpose, in this case it would be Whorls. To find a Life Lesson, he is looking the Lowest rank prints, in the case of Vijay Goel it would be Double Loop.
So as per above theory the Life Purpose and Life Lesson is very similar with Albert Einstein, however it does not mean that their actual life and potentials are same.
As per my understanding, people with archetype print combination are not going to live same life, make same mistakes, proceed with same career etc, however it is kind of guiding to the realization of what their capabilities are and how they can become better in what they do or have to do. I am sure there is more behind it, and more aspects have to tak place when putting all reading together.
My understanding may be little bit unclear, I still need more practise and deeper research.
By the way the link that you posted is very interesting. I never saw or heard anything like this before. Can you give me some more details on it? Please.
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 10:52 pm |
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Hi Helen,
I only posted the link to illustrate that Vijay Goel and Einstein do not have the same fingerprint classifications.
Regarding, Andres J. Washington's classification system - I would advice you to ignore that system, for I think it has no practical value at all (it's just another classification system).
But I do think that Mr. Washington's website does present more interesting materials (including other 'famous' fingerprints):
http://www.dermatoglyphics.com/
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Posted: Tue Aug 19th, 2008 11:12 pm |
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Hi Martijn,
Thanks for the link.
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Posted: Wed Aug 20th, 2008 03:45 am |
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Hi Helen, Martijn, Den,
I know that i am not Albert Einstien, I am only Vijay, i have my own individualistic approach and standing. Moreover similiar finger prints patterns does not make similiar personalities, over-all hand prints,formation, shapes and other reading have their say to individual's personality.
In Vedic astrology, we read the horoscope from various reference points.
Majorly are :
1)From Ascendent: (it indicate yourself) in simple terms health and intelligence.
2)From Moon (it indicate socialism, means society, its influence and person's relationship) in simple terms psycology.
3)From Sun (it indicate circumstances and oppurtunities of individual, the 'space' the individual is acquiring in this world.) Westerener gives highest stress to this ref point.
4)From Arudha Lagna (it indicate, your over-all image in this world) in simple terms Status in society.
5) From Atmakarak (It indicate what knowledge and experiences your Atma (soul) are born with, what life lessons you will undergo in this birth). In simple terms soul lesson and desires.
Now what i think,
In hand : from various lines,shapes, mounts etc, we can judge the point no. 2 to a good accuracy and also point no 1 to a good extent.
From finger prints and patterns and palm patterns, we can judge the point no. 5 more accurately.
It is not always possible that all points as said above will be harmonic to each other,
sometimes very much confrontation is their in point no.5 and point no.1,2 & 3.
This make the person very uneasy from inside and always finds some void in his life. becoz due to mismatch of conscious mind and sub-conscious mind.
Is is possible that patterns indicate something other (sub-conscious mind) and lines, shapes and mount have different say.(conscious mind)?? becoz i think it could be..
In future if i have such a horoscope than i will certainly take the prints of hand to verify this.
 for the nice effort all have made.
Best Wishes,
Vijay Goel
(sorry for the poor english !)
Last edited on Wed Aug 20th, 2008 03:50 am by Vijay Goel
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Posted: Wed Aug 20th, 2008 04:51 am |
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 The Prima Donna and the Mentor was exactly right, even though the prints are not the same per se, the archtypes are fulfilled and essentially equal in value as Einsteins, so thats an affirmative Helen on the Big shot in the spotlight...
I immediately think of sports when I hear the term Prima Donna. Someone like Andre Agassi or John Macenroe in tennis are good examples (even though we do not have their prints). The "mentor" aspect puts a layer of integrity to the Prima Donna in my opinion, making them ultimately a good example to others... much in line with the life of Einstein, just a different vocation.
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Posted: Wed Aug 20th, 2008 05:27 am |
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The "What I say matters" life lesson in correct also.
Speak up Vijay . Nice job Helen.
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Posted: Wed Aug 20th, 2008 10:02 am |
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Helen,
"As per my understanding, people with archetype print combination are not going to live same life, make same mistakes, proceed with same career etc, however it is kind of guiding to the realization of what their capabilities are and how they can become better in what they do or have to do."
You have hit the bull's eye.  analysis. A constant fire is burning inside me to become more perfect good human being. I rarerly repeat my mistakes.
Den
I immediately think of sports when I hear the term Prima Donna. Someone like Andre Agassi or John Macenroe in tennis are good examples (even though we do not have their prints). The "mentor" aspect puts a layer of integrity to the Prima Donna in my opinion, making them ultimately a good example to others... much in line with the life of Einstein, just a different vocation
The "What I say matters" life lesson in correct also.
Perfect !
Again brilliant analysis,  still if you explain me more about mentor and Prime Donna
I am a very simple, down to earth, person always yearning for 'KRSNA'.
I am from no way near to a Big Shot.
But truely i have met some Big Shot palmist here in the forum.
Best Wishes,
Vijay Goel
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Posted: Wed Aug 20th, 2008 10:09 am |
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What are the major weakness focus in this patterns. ? This aspect is more important.
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Posted: Thu Aug 28th, 2008 04:24 pm |
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Here is my ink-finger prints.
For pics of fingers here is the link:
http://internationalcollegeofpalmistry.com/forum/forum142/3589-2.html
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Right and left thumb
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right index
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