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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 01:18 am |
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Hi all,
I recently purchased a book by Gerald E. Picard "Handology" Character (Revealed, Destiny Mastered), did anyone have any comments about it?
I found it very broad and little bit confusing (not beginner friendly).
If any of you have good books to recommend I would appreciate.
By the way I enjoyed reading "Palmistrysecrets" by Per Hogseth.
Any other books? I am hungry for more books...Last edited on Thu May 22nd, 2008 01:18 am by Helen B
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 01:38 am |
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Hello Hellen,
Thanks for presenting us your short review on Picard's book.
I just found a video of Picard presenting his book:
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&VideoID=6075094
And another review which is much more positive about the book:
http://www.amazon.com/review/product/189475803X/ref=dp_db_cm_cr_acr_txt?%5Fencoding=UTF8&showViewpoints=1
By the way, Arnold Holtzman has send me his book:
The Illustrated Textbook of
Psychodiagnostic Chirology in Analysis and Therapy
The Science of Handreading in Psychological Diagnosis
http://www.pdc.co.il/
So, I hope a will be able to present a review of this book soon!
For the moment you can read some reviews of this book on Arnold's website:
http://www.pdc.co.il/reviews.htm
EDIT - November 24:
A more detailed review of this book is presented in this discussion:
http://internationalcollegeofpalmistry.com/forum/forum137/3921.html
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Posted: Thu May 22nd, 2008 03:02 am |
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Hi hand_research,
thank you for your links. I can not wait for your review on "The Illustrated Textbook of Psychodiagnostic Chirology in Analysis and Therapy
The Science of Handreading in Psychological Diagnosis"
I got very interested with the subject. Please keep me posted, this book is definitely on my list to read this summer.
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Posted: Sun May 25th, 2008 01:09 am |
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Hi Helen,
Yesterday I received Arnold's book and I think this books is really a piece of Hand Analysis master-art!
Some first impressions:
Regarding, the presentation:
I think this book will be a true treasure for anyone who is fascinated by the human hand. Presented in hardcover, illustrated with beautiful photo's, included with many footnotes, + an extended index.
Regarding, the content:
I don't know where to begin! First of all: for those who have red Arnold's first book, this second book is far more easy to read. However, Arnold presents his book on 'Psychodiagnostic Chirology' (PDC) as written for the professional behavioral specialist.
It is not going to be easy to write a comprehensive review about this book, but some day in the near future ... I will!
Nevertheless, I think this book is very welcome in the library of any professional Hand Analyst - especially because it provides an in depth and UNIQUE perspective on the link between the body and mind.
The vocabulary in PDC is completely UNRELATED to 'astrological' principles ... for example the finger-vocabulary presented in PDC is related to 'psychodynamic forces' (which have their origins in the work of: Sigmund Freud, D.W. Winnicott, Abraham Maslow and Heinz Kohut):
* Thumb - WILL: Including the 3 aspects: counterwill, impulse to will, gravitation to autonomy and independence
* Index finger - 'the PERSONA'
* Middle finger - 'the SELF
* Ring finger - 'ROLE IDENTITY'
* Little finger - 'INNER IMAGE OF SELF'
By the way, PDC does include some similarities with 'classical' Hand Analysis - for, the 4 major creases (life line, heart line, head line and fate line) are related to the 'classical' principles ... though seen from the 'psychodynamic perspective'.
For now I am wondering ... have I ever seen any other Hand Analysis system which completely ignores the 'classical' vocabulary related to astrology.
QUESTION:
Can anyone name another Hand Analysis system which includes no planetary vocabulary + no elemental vocabulary at all???
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Posted: Sun May 25th, 2008 01:28 am |
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Not sure if you class it as a system, but I think Johnny Fincham's last book "Apprentice to Pro in 24 hours" did not include any astrological nor elemental nomenclature. (?)
Thanks Martijn, now I have another book to add to my wish list. :-) What do you think about the psychological interpretations or classifications that Arnold talks about, I have heard criticism in the past that they are not well known or recognised 'syndromes'. (sorry I am searching for the right words, you know much more about psychology than I do).
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Posted: Sun May 25th, 2008 02:56 am |
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Hi Martijn,
I really appreciate your review on Arnold Holtzman's book. I will add to my wish list. I am grateful that there is a book about palmistry that includes actual pictures of the hands and not just flat drawings. From my observations it is very hard in the beginning to identify hand types and lines especially if they are somewhere in between and not simple / traditional easy to sort and see.
I will share my thought about this book from the beginners point of view after reading it.
Once again thank you.
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Posted: Sun May 25th, 2008 12:30 pm |
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Lynn wrote: Not sure if you class it as a system, but I think Johnny Fincham's last book "Apprentice to Pro in 24 hours" did not include any astrological nor elemental nomenclature. (?)
Thanks Martijn, now I have another book to add to my wish list. :-) What do you think about the psychological interpretations or classifications that Arnold talks about, I have heard criticism in the past that they are not well known or recognised 'syndromes'. (sorry I am searching for the right words, you know much more about psychology than I do).
Hi Lynn,
I have no problem if you would like to classify Johnny's work as a 'system'.
However, regarding your suggestion that Johnny presents a system which doesn't include any planetary nor elemental nomenclature, I would like to make some comments (for I think this is a bridge too far):
Johnny's first book (The Spellbinding Power of Palmistry) from 2005 was full of elemental & planetary nomenclature!!!
Only two year later, in his second (Palmistry: From Apprentice to Pro in 24 Hours), Johnny appears to have eliminated most of the elemental & planetary nomenclature ... ??? (by the way, Lynn did he also exclude the elemental aspects of fingerprints?)
Maybe ... a change in the PRESENTATION ONLY???
For, Johnny hasn't made a likewise change on his website. And his workshops appear to include at least the elements.
 ... calling Johnny's work a system, does this implicate that the system underwent a dramatic change during the past few years? (I guess not)
Lynn, I just hope you got my point regarding the unique (and consequent) approach in Arnold's work. Regarding your comment:
"What do you think about the psychological interpretations or classifications that Arnold talks about, I have heard criticism in the past that they are not well known or recognised 'syndromes'. "
Yes this is correct. At least some of the syndromes described by PDC are not included in the DSM-IV - this is the worldwide used classification system used in Medics, Psychiatry and Psychology. But Arnold also describes in his new book hand features which are related to for example 'borderline disorder' and 'obsessive compulsive disorder'.
Nevertheless, actually I do think that at least some of the criticism on Arnold work ... is solid and fair.
(  ... and actually, I could add for sure a few more points)
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Posted: Sun May 25th, 2008 11:51 pm |
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Martijn wrote :- "by the way, Lynn did he (Johnny) also exclude the elemental aspects of fingerprints?
Apart from referring to a loop as looking like a wave of water, I don't remember any reference to elements or planets in Johnny's second book. But of course if you understand the elements, you can read for example 'simple arch' fingerprints and know that it describes strong earth element. Yes I take your point about change in presentation, or change of nomenclature. Has the system changed? Well I think I prefer to call it a "way of looking" and Johnny has evolved a new way of looking in his descriptions / names of things like skin texture, fingers and even new names for lines.
Of course I agree that Arnold has developed a unique system. Richard Unger has also developed a unique system in analysing fingerprints with regard to "Life Purpose". Actually, does Richard use any planetary nomenclature? I don't remember any. and I am pretty sure he doesn't use the elements.
I'll be interested to hear your further comments about Arnold's book, thanks Martijn.
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 01:36 am |
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Thanks Lynn!
Yes, I would indeed say that Richard also presents a unique system, especially regarding the fingerprints. However ... on Richard's website - in the section 'beginners' - you can see that Richard also does include the planetary nomenclature (fingers) AND the elemental nomenclature (hand shape).
Lynn, tomorrow I will take a look into Ed Campbell's encyclopedia to see if he has identified any Palmistry systems which do not include the astrological nomenclatures at all.
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 01:28 pm |
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Lynn wrote:
... Richard Unger has also developed a unique system in analysing fingerprints with regard to "Life Purpose". Actually, does Richard use any planetary nomenclature? I don't remember any. and I am pretty sure he doesn't use the elements.
While we are on the subject, I was considering Richard's book on Life Purpose after hearing his interview from Martijn's site. Any comments about his work on this subject, good? bad?
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Posted: Mon May 26th, 2008 02:12 pm |
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Hi Den,
Yes, I think Richard is one of the most successfull Hand Analysts in the world. His course program is presented in the USA, Switzerland, and I believe Germany as well.
And quite a lot of his graduated students present a high quality modern website about their activities - where Richard's name and organisation is usually mentioned. On his website he presents a list of his graduated students:
http://www.handanalysis.net/contacts.htm
By the way, a few months ago I presented on my website a review of Richard book - which was published last summer:
'LIFEPRINTS': Deciphering Your Life Purpose from Your Fingerprints
http://www.handresearch.com/news/lifeprints-richard-unger.htm
A few weeks ago Lynn also made some comments about Richard's book.
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Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 03:57 pm |
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Hi Lynn,
I just checked Ed Campbell's 'The Encyclopedia of Palmistry' - which includes a review of the books written by 107 hand reading authors (merely: palmists & palm readers).
In chapter 5 'The Fingers' are related to the astrological names: jupiter finger, saturn finger, etc. (and Ed doesn't name any author who goes beyond this traditional perspective)
Arnold Holtzman's first book (which became a collectors items soon after the first publication) is NOT mentioned in Ed's work.
So, I think this confirms that Arnold's perspective of the fingers (psychodynamica is very unique.
By the way, those who would like to read a bit more about Arnold Holtzman's 'psychodynamic' perspective, I would advice to read this page on Arnold's website:
http://www.pdc.co.il/papers1.htm
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Posted: Mon Jun 2nd, 2008 10:53 pm |
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By the way, for those people who are interested to explore new books in the field of Palmistry, Palm Reading and Hand Analysis:
The following page on my website presents a list of Palmistry books ('Hand Analysis books') - including 55 titles!!! - which were presented during the years 2005, 2006 and 2007:
http://www.handresearch.com/news/hand-analysis.htm
(at the end of this year I will also include books which are presented in 2008)
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Having studied directly with Richard Unger, I can share that 17 years later, I find his Life Purpose using the fingerprints is very accurate. Yes, he does refer to each finger by the planetary names so it isn't apart from that system. But since he developed this system after doing days of research in the medical library in Houston on fingerprints and having reading thousands of hands, it feels like the system is very stable, clear and specific. If you want to learn Richard's system, starting with his LifePrints book is a great start. Then I've taken the heart lines and Gift Markings portion of what I learned from him and written books on those, as well as now having a two set audio file on the heart lines on my web site (just up last week). I find the accuracy amazing consistently.
When Richard put together his system, he actually took what he read in palmistry books written by everybody he could find in English (25+ years ago) and tested out each piece. He only put into his system what was 100% accurate. I found that helpful information.
And the fingerprint info comes from combining what he learned about the science of how fingerprints are formed and what he knew about the meaning of the fingers.
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Interesting interesting stuff. I've really gotta check into some of his books.
Say, what do you guys think of Richard Webster? I haven't heard anything about him from you guys, yet his was the first book I read. Any opinions?
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 05:56 pm |
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I bought this book from amazon, recently
Palmistry Encyclopedia from Rhoda.
Click on the link above to see on Amazon
I will say the plus and the minus-es of this book:
PLUS:This book has analysis for every single lines on the palm, right from where it originates to where it ends, etc. Very explicit and detailed.
MINUS: (according to me, may not be for others) Some of the analysis like a small triangle on the left side of the thumb denotes this.... while on the other side would denote that...does not seem feasible to me. However, this seems like ancient palmistry and I do not completely agree with Rhoda on her analysis. Sometimes, too detailed analysis cannot be 100% right.
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 06:03 pm |
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I also read a book from Vernon Mahabal - THe secret code on your hands <--- click on the link to see on amazon
I was impressed with this book - Though some of the things I did not agree (just because I did not find this analysis coming from some other expert) like a single line coming down from the bend of Jupiter finger means the person used to worship God as a single idol in the past life. (THere is no way a subject can confirm that unless he/she is psychic or hypnotist)
Rest of the stuff - like LifePurpose on the basis of the fingerprints is very impressive. I dont know whether Vernon was a student of Richard Unger because they both have come out with a book which talks about Life Purpose based on fingerprints. But, that could be coincidence.
According to me, its worth a read atleast once.
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 06:27 pm |
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I know Vernon personally and he studied with Richard after he learned hands. Vernon takes hands from the perspective of applying astrology to the hands. For many years he worked in the NY police dept helping them with some lines right under the fingers - he has an entire system based on the vertical little lines right below the fingers which I find fairly accurate.
His fingerprint stuff is some of what he learned from Richard and some of what he applies from astrology. For example, Vernon ranks tented arches higher than loops to identify life purpose/life lesson. Richard ranks loops higher.
RIchard's system is generated from how the volar pads form in utero before birth. THe loops stand higher on the volar pads (finger tips) than tented arches so deserve a higher ranking. For Vernon, he uses the elements of air, earth, fire and water and ranks things according to which element has higher standing. So he assigns the tented arch as fire which has a higher ranking than water which is loops.
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Thanks Pamelah for the feedback.
As I mentioned, I found Vernon's book more impressive than Rhoda's Palmistry Encycl.
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| So... Richard Webster, anybody? It puzzles me that his books haven't shown up in many of the "must read" lists. I'm reading through his books at the moment, and find that they're fairly easy reads compared to some of the other books I've read. Any thoughts? There's gotta be somewhat of a general consensus on him in the palmistry community.
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Posted: Sat Jun 21st, 2008 12:59 pm |
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Hello Random Violin Guy,
Regarding Richard Webster ... he wrote a few books about Palmistry, but he also wrote books about numerology, dowsing, shamanism, feng shui, etc. etc. etc. ... and ... cold reading(!).
Obviously Richard Webster is a professional author (see: http://www.richardwebster.co.nz/ ), and therefore I expect that his Palmistry books include lots of Palmistry-stereotypes - which are probably also found in other books.
Random Violin Guy, maybe you can inform us a bit more about Richard Webster's palmistry book? Maybe you can describe us what is in your opinion original/authentic about Richard's palmistry approach?
I hope your feedback can change my point view ...  !!!
PS. I don't have any of Richard's books, I only have some review notes about Richard's book 'Revealing Hands: How to read palms' in Ed Campbell's 'The Encyclopedia of Palmistry'.
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