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Posted: Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 12:34 pm |
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Hi,
Does the location of marriage line only foretell the age of marriage? Is it really accurate? I find my case not so accurate.

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Posted: Fri Aug 22nd, 2008 11:33 pm |
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The line itself is important, I personally have had little success timing or predicting marriage with it. I am resigned to call them relationship lines and study them for sake of "trends"... when the length is long or if curving down towards line of heart. That is my use of the line.
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 09:45 am |
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Hi Den,
Thank for your answer. Then does the marriage line just reveal the relationships and trends of love affairs? Or it reveals other kinds of relationships and trends.

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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 10:24 am |
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Hi
So- called marriage line and its timings are very diffuclt to asses.I donot have any good ability in this regard.Same is regarding kids lines and its composition.
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 12:39 pm |
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Hi Mutaza,
This means that the line under the little finger is not the line that can predict the states of marriage, right?

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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 01:25 pm |
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Hello Janhealth,
you said
This means that the line under the little finger is not the line that can predict the states of marriage, right?
Lines under little finger express much more than what was quoted in old INDIAN PALMISTRY literature as lines of marriage [ marriage first than the bond of attachment developed by living together], but with the change of time and human approach in present day have changed it’s sense entirely, love and affection first, marriage comes later, but the effects represented by their strength, quality, defects remain unchanged while interpreting their effects in that field. As regards timing on these lines, other influence lines [lines close to fate line, life line, and branches from heart line] are also to be taken into consideration before making any final decision to mark timing of event relating to these lines.
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Posted: Sat Aug 23rd, 2008 01:27 pm |
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I agree with GM, very difficult to read accurately for marriage for me.
The concept of marriage and entering into marriage has changed over the last 50 years. Relationships are not enduring as back in the day, and a lot of people either just shacking up or divorcing (USA). Attachments have become confused, therefore the line interpretation has become confused, or just problematic in general. There are many hand readers that read these lines, and many that do not. The professionals here have cast doubt on the line in past posts in it representing actual marriages in number and timing, therefore I take their word on it. So has Johnny Fincham and other noteworthy hand readers also.
Excessive length of the line or curvatures are what I have been looking at, but predicting husbands and children, I do not.
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 03:27 am |
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Hi Bhandari,
You said:"other influence lines are also to be taken into consideration before making any final decision to mark timing of event relating to these lines." Can you make some explanations of this point?" Thanks!
Hi Den,
The marriage line may not be a line that can predict the marriage states in USA. But how about other countries? In some countries, like China, the concept of marriage is still very clear. Many couples live with each other for a life. How to explain it?

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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 03:38 am |
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Janhealth wrote:
Hi Den,
The marriage line may not be a line that can predict the marriage states in USA. But how about other countries? In some countries, like China, the concept of marriage is still very clear. Many couples live with each other for a life. How to explain it?
Hi Janhealth,
Does the legal marriage in China or even other countries always truly represents the emotional attachment? As per my understanding lines on our palms do not just represent facts that are happening to us, but how we perceive and experience them.
Do you think men with 100 legal wife's would have 100 marriage lines? (it is just a very oversized example for my point).Last edited on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 03:39 am by Helen B
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 05:47 am |
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Hi Helen B,
Thanks for your answer. But would you like to further explain the point that "As per my understanding lines on our palms do not just represent facts that are happening to us, but how we perceive and experience them. " It sounds very interesting for me for as I know, the line in the right hand (the used hand) will predict the fact in the foreseebale future.

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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 08:57 am |
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Helen B wrote: Janhealth wrote:
Hi Den,
The marriage line may not be a line that can predict the marriage states in USA. But how about other countries? In some countries, like China, the concept of marriage is still very clear. Many couples live with each other for a life. How to explain it?
Hi Janhealth,
Does the legal marriage in China or even other countries always truly represents the emotional attachment? As per my understanding lines on our palms do not just represent facts that are happening to us, but how we perceive and experience them.
Do you think men with 100 legal wife's would have 100 marriage lines? (it is just a very oversized example for my point).
Hi Helen,
If you say experience are recorded, i also think so, but again query remains the same.
if person have 10 emotional (or may be physical) attachment, does it will be indicated in10 marriage lines.
Vijay Goel
Last edited on Sun Aug 24th, 2008 08:59 am by Vijay Goel
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 12:03 pm |
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Janhealth wrote:
Hi Den,
The marriage line may not be a line that can predict the marriage states in USA. But how about other countries? In some countries, like China, the concept of marriage is still very clear. Many couples live with each other for a life. How to explain it?

That is a valid point, I have heard many readings from Indian palmist, eastern...etc that can speak with great conviction on marriages and children, that type of hand reader could answer your question much better than I. Everybody has their own style of hand reading, and I tend to focus more on the psychological mindset of the person. The attachments in America are much more "fluid" in nature than in other parts of the world, so the line could be muddled by society norms. Good point.
I think a plunging relationship line would be much more telling of a feature than how many marriages one will enter into, personally speaking. It ascribes a fundamental characteristic to the person that would affect every relationship.
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 12:52 pm |
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Janhealth wrote:
Hi Helen B,
Thanks for your answer. But would you like to further explain the point that "As per my understanding lines on our palms do not just represent facts that are happening to us, but how we perceive and experience them. " It sounds very interesting for me for as I know, the line in the right hand (the used hand) will predict the fact in the foreseebale future.
Ok, lets put it that way. For some people a promotion to manager supervisor could be a significant achievement, however for very ambitious person it would be just a next step for his or her goal. So even-though both individuals would be promoted to same position the length and depth of achievement line or any other signs would be different. Due to their goals and perception, emotional experience.
I hope you understand what I am trying to say. It is a facts that we are
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 12:58 pm |
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Vijay Goel write:
Hi Helen,
If you say experience are recorded, i also think so, but again query remains the same.
if person have 10 emotional (or may be physical) attachment, does it will be indicated in10 marriage lines.
Hi Vijay Goel,
I am not sure about that, I think it depend on how deep individual is experiencing these 10 emotional attachments. I can say that having multiple emotional attachments will indicate a very emotional person, so there would be other signs on the hands to prove it.
Mostly what I know about palmistry is coming from my observations. So we probably will need to ask professionals for their opinion and experience
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 01:54 pm |
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Hello all Palmistry lovers,
In my experience, I have found that these lines do not only represent marriages, but also show major relationships in a persons life, which have been so strong, who left their impression so deeply on that persons heart and soul [ HEART LINE AND HEAD LINE], which we can clearly observe from upward/downward branches, islands or breaks in HEART LINE, HEAD LINE, LIFE LINE AND EVEN FROM FATE LINE, from where we can confirm the time period of that relationship and effect of the same which may be positive/creative or destructive in sense.
We may be wrong here in quoting if a persons meets 100 persons, but their links may not be so strong with all, whom that person meets, only a limited number of persons will effect strongly as quoted above, whose impacts are so recored in any one persons life, but some factors are pre destined to happen, because these lines may also be found even on the hand of a small child, who possess no experience in this line, but these lines show their effects at a proper time.
rabinder bhandari
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Posted: Sun Aug 24th, 2008 02:03 pm |
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Den wrote: I agree with GM, very difficult to read accurately for marriage for me.
The concept of marriage and entering into marriage has changed over the last 50 years. Relationships are not enduring as back in the day, and a lot of people either just shacking up or divorcing (USA). Attachments have become confused, therefore the line interpretation has become confused, or just problematic in general. There are many hand readers that read these lines, and many that do not. The professionals here have cast doubt on the line in past posts in it representing actual marriages in number and timing, therefore I take their word on it. So has Johnny Fincham and other noteworthy hand readers also.
Excessive length of the line or curvatures are what I have been looking at, but predicting husbands and children, I do not.
Den
Hi Den,
Yes, the concept of marriage has changed over the years. But 'our problem' regarding this line was already noticed by Benham in the year 1900:
"William G. Benham writes in ‘The Benham Book of Palmistry’ (1900) about the marriage line:
(page 520): “In some hands there are none of these lines and in others many are seen. From time immemorial they have been used by older palmists as indications of marriage or unions of the sexes. Their value in practice is considerable if used up to their limit, and in combination, but used by themselves, as a hard-and-fast indication of marriage, they lead to contstant error.”
http://palmistryguide.wordpress.com/2008/08/14/palmistry-what-does-your-marriage-line-indicate/
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Posted: Mon Aug 25th, 2008 03:58 am |
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bhandari1951 wrote: Hello all Palmistry lovers,
In my experience, I have found that these lines do not only represent marriages, but also show major relationships in a persons life, which have been so strong, who left their impression so deeply on that persons heart and soul [ HEART LINE AND HEAD LINE], which we can clearly observe from upward/downward branches, islands or breaks in HEART LINE, HEAD LINE, LIFE LINE AND EVEN FROM FATE LINE, from where we can confirm the time period of that relationship and effect of the same which may be positive/creative or destructive in sense.
We may be wrong here in quoting if a persons meets 100 persons, but their links may not be so strong with all, whom that person meets, only a limited number of persons will effect strongly as quoted above, whose impacts are so recored in any one persons life, but some factors are pre destined to happen, because these lines may also be found even on the hand of a small child, who possess no experience in this line, but these lines show their effects at a proper time.
rabinder bhandari
I also agree, it is a indication of your soul partner.
Since we follow the concept of karma and rebirth theory as per 'Gita'.
These marriage line indicates the karmic association or 'soul partner' in this birth and experience could be good or bad as indicated as said above. It does not always indicate sexual relationship.
I think this horizontal line is under the mount of mercury (Intelligence), parallel to heart line (emotions), means how the free nature of intelligence is forced-bounded to accept the emotions of hearts and its freedom is restricted. Normally with the soul partner you want to share yourself and his\her advice\reactions plays the important role.
Now second question arises that what these marriage line will say in the hand of saints who observe complete celibacy and no marriage.
 
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 02:17 am |
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Hello All Palmistry lovers,
Vijay Goel has raised a very good question as
Now second question arises that what these marriage line will say in the hand of saints who observe complete celibacy and no marriage.
Thanks Vijay for asking this and I have found it`s reply from an INDIAN author’s book named SAMUDRIK SUDHA, written by PT. HARI DUTT SHARMA, published by SAVITRI THAKUR PRAKASHAN, RATH YATRA, VARANASI, in which he has quoted that
Yogion, sadhu sanyasion, mathadhishon aur sati sadhviyon ke santaan aur pati sthaan per haath mein unke shishyon aur poojya ko kramsh manaa jaye
so marriage line and childern lines in the hands of saints denote :
to whom they worship, they are totally merged with that at their mental/emotional/spiritual plan relates with line of union and children lines denote the number of their disciples respectively.
rabinder bhandari
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Posted: Tue Aug 26th, 2008 05:47 am |
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bhandari1951 wrote: Hello All Palmistry lovers,
Vijay Goel has raised a very good question as
Now second question arises that what these marriage line will say in the hand of saints who observe complete celibacy and no marriage.
Thanks Vijay for asking this and I have found it`s reply from an INDIAN author’s book named SAMUDRIK SUDHA, written by PT. HARI DUTT SHARMA, published by SAVITRI THAKUR PRAKASHAN, RATH YATRA, VARANASI, in which he has quoted that
Yogion, sadhu sanyasion, mathadhishon aur sati sadhviyon ke santaan aur pati sthaan per haath mein unke shishyon aur poojya ko kramsh manaa jaye
so marriage line and childern lines in the hands of saints denote :
to whom they worship, they are totally merged with that at their mental/emotional/spiritual plan relates with line of union and children lines denote the number of their disciples respectively.
rabinder bhandari
I am thinking to the same line as saints marry mentally to their 'Ishta' means God, as they share themself to 'Ishta'.
Their teachings are their mental children, those who accept their teaching becomes their 'Sishya' or physical students. Note these students also accepts 'Ishta' as their mother or as a source of knowledge.
What i am trying to say that nothing has changed, 'History repeats itself', only new defination or naming are evolving on the same experiences of past or present.
Defination of marriage is changing from time to time.
The defination given by 'Manu' in 'Manusmritii chapter third' still hold good as all marriage come under any one. He has catergories eight types of marriages and still any new ninth type is not known to me till today.
This defination is well used in vedic astrology principles by the Rishis and new research is going on by many scholers of this subject all over the world.
Just a thought out of context of palmistry.

Vijay Goel
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Interesting to know -- although this is the one of the first few questions asked by someone who wants to know about love, marriage --- we cannot provide a definite answer.
So, the palmists have to consider the 'environment' or the 'social upbringing' of the subject to even comment anything on marriage lines or lines of affection.
If I understand this right - To a saint/priest -- the marriage lines could be a undivided devotion to god (if there are more than one then what does it mean?) and the lines of children are the disciples.
To a homosexual person -- marriage is out of the cards (except for the state of California! in USA) so its just the emotional bonding that makes up the lines of marriage or affection.
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If there is just one line - and if the person has married more than once or loved more than once --- then that person is a "man/woman of one" - so to speak. He/she loves just one person at a time and with full devotion - hence just one line of affection. The person redirects his/her emotions to one person at a time..
If there are two or more -- then it could be that the person has the 'ability' to flirt or have a bonding with those many persons at the same level. The bonding can be with family member or spouse or pet or friend.
The love of spouse can be 'replaced' with the love of child or love of pet - if the subject divorces or displaces the emotional bonding with the spouse/partner. Hence not having an additional line of marriage...
WOW!!!!! Everything is recyclable on this planet, even lines of marriage! 
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