 |
| Author | Post |
|---|
hansi
Gold Member
| Joined: | Thu Apr 19th, 2007 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 479 |
| Your Age: | | | Palmistry Skills: | | | Your current mood: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: |    |
|
Posted: Tue May 27th, 2008 12:25 am |
|
Just a curious thought in my mind ---
As we all know studying hand is more scientific because it displays what your brain is thinking or your conscious is thinking and imagining etc etc etc... (in the same lines)
I can understand the past is confirmed in the form of worry lines when a trauma was experienced or a house move was made or a lifestyle is changed, etc..
So then when we try to predict the future -- does that mean that our future is there on our hands --- not necessarily related to the brain pattern or the way in which we think.
I could be the most responsible person uptil date but then at age 45 (hypothetically speaking) I will have a major setback -- lets say trauma or I become a compulsive gambler --- this is surely metaphysical and its not science, for sure. Because its a possibility not a confirmation. My brain is not going to think today that I will become a compulsive gambler or will face a major setback at age 45. Because, today I am thinking responsibly and probably no one will ever wish to be a compulsive gambler or wish to have a major setback in the future.
Then what drives this prediction?
Ofcourse, thats why palmistry is short on being 100% scientific..
Any suggestions or opinions, anyone?
|
bhandari1951
Gold Member
| Joined: | Sun Apr 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Morinda [Punjab] INDIA, India |
| Posts: | 281 |
| Your Age: | | | Palmistry Skills: | | | Your current mood: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: | |
|
Posted: Tue May 27th, 2008 04:35 am |
|
Hello Hansi,
Your post is quite interesting one and has raised a question ????????
Your are totaly correct at one point that
it displays what your brain is thinking or your conscious is thinking and imagining
But here you missed one thing...the subconscious mind... the supportive mind...or dormant part, on which the foundation of total map of life is laid, which is governed by PAST KARMA, whose influences can be very well read by following the effects of planets by linking this PALM READING with other fields related with this scince such as ASTRO PALMISTRY, ASTROLOGY.
In Palmistry too, we read conscious and subconscious mind`s effects differently, thereafter we corelate these two to reach a final consclusion.
rabinder bhandari
|
hansi
Gold Member
| Joined: | Thu Apr 19th, 2007 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 479 |
| Your Age: | | | Palmistry Skills: | | | Your current mood: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: | |
|
Posted: Tue May 27th, 2008 01:03 pm |
|
Thanks Bhandari --- very valid point. As you have mentioned about past karma -- I was wondering if you could comment on one of the posts. I have posted the picture where the fateline originates from the back of my hand (Left) and goes up towards the headline where it stops at the mercury line.
I would like to get some opinions from others, in case anyone tries to differ.
Last edited on Tue May 27th, 2008 01:04 pm by hansi
|
hansi
Gold Member
| Joined: | Thu Apr 19th, 2007 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 479 |
| Your Age: | | | Palmistry Skills: | | | Your current mood: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: | |
|
Posted: Tue May 27th, 2008 01:07 pm |
|
Thanks Bhandariji for your inputs.. Does anyone beg to differ on this point or would like to elaborate????
P.S. Bhandariji, as you mention about past karma would you be kind enough to comment on one of the posts I started -- fateline that originates from the back of my hand (luna ) and continues up till its stopped by the mercury line
http://internationalcollegeofpalmistry.com/forum/forum126/3467.html
|
Helen B
PI Registered Member
| Joined: | Sun Mar 23rd, 2008 |
| Location: | New Jersey USA |
| Posts: | 296 |
| Your Age: | 26 - 35 | | Palmistry Skills: | Elementary | | Your current mood: | life is worth living |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: | |
|
Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 03:19 am |
|
"So then when we try to predict the future -- does that mean that our future is there on our hands --- not necessarily related to the brain pattern or the way in which we think. "
In my opinion Yes and No. I believe that some facts or situation may happen; however it is up to us (our brain, character, personality, perception) to experience and create future. There is always two sides of the coin, so what our hands, nails and lines on palm may show is our potential, possibility or direction that we may take in the future.
About your example, from my observation I noticed that age period from early to late 40 is kind of critical and unpredictable age, same as teenage period. There could be different reasons why dramatic change would happen especially the one that you (hypothetically speaking) described and I believe they may be coming from the past.
Only knowing our past well we will be able to predict future.
I hope I was not confusing, communication is not my best skill.
|
Helen B
PI Registered Member
| Joined: | Sun Mar 23rd, 2008 |
| Location: | New Jersey USA |
| Posts: | 296 |
| Your Age: | 26 - 35 | | Palmistry Skills: | Elementary | | Your current mood: | life is worth living |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: | |
|
Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 03:19 am |
|
Ops, my un-patience causes double posts,
SorryLast edited on Wed May 28th, 2008 03:20 am by Helen B
|
bhandari1951
Gold Member
| Joined: | Sun Apr 8th, 2007 |
| Location: | Morinda [Punjab] INDIA, India |
| Posts: | 281 |
| Your Age: | | | Palmistry Skills: | | | Your current mood: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: | |
|
Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 12:49 pm |
|
Hello Hellen B,
as you said in your edited post:
Ops, my un-patience causes double posts,
In my above post, I have tried to corelate the link of our hand lines with influences represented in other fields such as: ASTRO PALMISTRY AND ASTROLOGY, in which it becomes clear when some big changes are expected in any persons behavior, whether -ve or +ve, which all is due to our PAST KARMA, by reading planetary effects, as you might have noted why ancients have named mounts/fingers/lines on the names of planets such as APOLO, MOON, JUPITER,VENUS, SATURN, MERCRY AND MARS.
I SOMETIMES WONDER, WHY SOME PRESENT DAY PALMISTS ARE TRYING TO REMOVE THIS LINK OF NAMES RELATED TO THE LINES, AS QUOTED BY OUR ANCIENTS IN OLD TEXTS. HOWEVER, I AGREE THAT SOME CHANGES IN OUR READING TECHNIQUES ARE MUST FOR WAY OF MAKING PREDITICTION IN PRESENT DAY SCENERIO, BUT THOSE, WHO ARE ONLY CONVERSENT WITH ONE SYSTEM i.e. PALMISTRY, SHOULD NOT TRY TO REMOVE IT`S LINK WITH PLANETS WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING ANY OF OTHER SYSTEMS .
DO YOU KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT OLD SOULS?
WHAT ARE THE SIGNS IN THEIR HANDS WHICH MAKE ONE PERSON TO IDENTIFY THAT?
Have any way tried to understand or learn something relating to the theory of our KARMA, if not, than try to read and get some input to your thoughts, which will make you think and express in a cool and thoughtful way...
This is my humble try to express how all factors are related to each other as all palm lines are related to each other while making a final prediction.
rabinder bhandari
|
Helen B
PI Registered Member
| Joined: | Sun Mar 23rd, 2008 |
| Location: | New Jersey USA |
| Posts: | 296 |
| Your Age: | 26 - 35 | | Palmistry Skills: | Elementary | | Your current mood: | life is worth living |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: | |
|
Posted: Thu May 29th, 2008 01:45 pm |
|
Hi rabinder bhandari,
I heard the definition of OLD SOULS. I believe there is also a legend that in the time of crisis on our planet, more old souls will be send to teach and guide people. If I am not mistaken this predictions is coming from Native American Shamans, however I may be wrong and similar prediction could be find in other cultures as well. I found it interesting and fascinating how legends, believes, divination techniques from different cultures are connected and linked with each other. I also noticed the connection between children, parents and ant-sisters (I am not talking about physical connection). I noticed similarity in Palm lines, life circumstances, choices and characters.
Even though most of my knowledge is coming from observations and instincts, I would love to get dipper into that subject / science.
I would like to know the sings of old souls on the hands, books or web links about our Karma, palmistry, numerology and astrology.
|
Karla Kogan
Gold Member
| Joined: | Fri Dec 30th, 2005 |
| Location: | Prunedale, California USA |
| Posts: | 607 |
| Your Age: | 36 - 45 | | Palmistry Skills: | Advanced | | Your current mood: | Woo Hoo !!! |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: | |
|
Posted: Thu May 29th, 2008 02:44 pm |
|
Hi Hansi and all! Genetics plays a part in how the lines are formed as well. Yes? I thought that it's a combination of all those energies..the brain impulses, the DNA, the energies from past lives. I think that's why for me personally, it's very difficult to emphatically state to someone, "This event WILL happen!" As Helen said, there is always room for us to influence some of those lines! Perhaps as far as heredity goes, there may be clear indications of tendencies, patterns. For example, a family may all possess long, knotty fingers and they all share a thoroughly thoughtful thinking. I love alliteration, sorry. I look at the internal influences like puberty and menopause, also. There are internal codes that are time-released within our body's make-up. Helen remarked on the 40's perhaps as being a time of potential change. What do you think? Does anyone recoginize patterns that emerge for male/female hands at certain ages/timeline sections?
So how to predict? On the active hand, when one sees a health problem occuring at a certain age, would they say, "Yep, you're doomed to experience that!" Yikes! I would mentally spot the problem, look for traits that would assist with any upcoming issue, kindly suggest caution in whatever area and move on. A gentle warning would serve a client more than me being "right" about a sign I may see on their hand. Didn't I just read something about ego around here recently? Besides, if our lines are changing depending on our experiences, how could we describe and event 10 years from now when 5 years from now all those effects are going to be expressed or NOT be expressed in the hand?
But what about something positive and hopeful that you may see? A definite shift in career? The potential for travel at a certain age? Influence or romance entering one's life? If we confirm the positive things we see, THAT'S where the client's focus will be and when they think about good stuff, their energy will move in that direction. Maybe that's not being fair. "You should tell it like it is, good and bad!" I don't believe that would be for the highest good of all. People come to a hand analyst for guidance and support. Our challenge is to look at their hands and find the best way to give them that.
OK. My, my..the coffee must have been extra strong this morning! Thanks for listening y'all and I'm interested to hear your take on predictions.
Enjoy an exceptionally exciting and eventful day! (Egads.)
Karla
|
hansi
Gold Member
| Joined: | Thu Apr 19th, 2007 |
| Location: | United Kingdom |
| Posts: | 479 |
| Your Age: | | | Palmistry Skills: | | | Your current mood: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: | |
|
Posted: Thu May 29th, 2008 03:10 pm |
|
Karla, maybe you should have one of your strong coffees everytime you write your analysis :-)  Its elaborate and juicy.
Handreaders are there to help people overcome their drawbacks and shift their positive energy in the direction of finding a remedy for their issues. If thats the case, then they should point out to the positive outcomes that may happen in the future, so the subject focusses his/her energy in that direction and ONLY TELL the negative outcomes which are current and NOT in the future -- this ways atleast the subject will focus his/her energy in finding a remedy of the current issue instead of worrying about a negative outcome in the future and making his/her life miserable right from that time.
Besides, I also think majority of the subjects who find out about their 'negative outcome' in the future beg for help from the handreader to 'fix the negative outcome' without having to work on it himself/herself. Its like a fastfood world -- people want fast results and happier outcomes without paying a lot, without having to work on personal development., etc.
Its like everyone wants to know about money (career is not a factor because money is where the real stuff is) and marriage - which no one can be absolutely sure because both takes effect due to the external factors like family, spouse, boss, his company, his clients, etc. And its not possible to see everyone's hands and come to a perfect conclusion.
Last edited on Thu May 29th, 2008 03:12 pm by hansi
|
Helen B
PI Registered Member
| Joined: | Sun Mar 23rd, 2008 |
| Location: | New Jersey USA |
| Posts: | 296 |
| Your Age: | 26 - 35 | | Palmistry Skills: | Elementary | | Your current mood: | life is worth living |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: | |
|
Posted: Fri May 30th, 2008 04:25 am |
|
Hi Karla,
I guess I should of not be emphasizing on certain age, my mistake. What I was trying to say is that in our life we are going through different stages of development that lead to changes. Like from childhood to teenage (I think you will agree with me that these is not easy transaction) from teenage to young adulthood and etc. Everybody is experiencing it differently and in different age period, of course, however these changes are exposing us to possibility of adjustments in our behavior, personality, life decision making and may automatically lead to some drastic change. However there is also other parts that are playing big role in this changes and they were discussed above already.
As per my understanding some changes may not even be marked on the palms, because of individuals perception, however I think it does not mean that it did not happen.
About your predictions, I am not a palm reader, I am just learning, so for me it is hard to say anything, but I think it is necessary to stress on positive things to the clients. It is especially helpful to people who need guide-ness and who slightly unsecured in themselves or who did not chose direction in their life yet. If person believes in himself / herself, he / she will be capable to achieve the goal or successes in anything he / she does.
But there is also another type of people who are looking for negative, then it is different story. I think they are the skeptical, cynical or pessimistic once. So I guess everything depends on the client, I may be wrong, which is possible.
I saw a movie “The Secret” about how visualization is helping to succeed or get change. I will try to find link to post. Did anybody saw this movie? Any thoughts or opinions on it?
|
zonirose
Newbie
| Joined: | Sun Nov 9th, 2008 |
| Location: | Pakistan |
| Posts: | 5 |
| Your Age: | 26 - 35 | | Palmistry Skills: | Intermediate | | Your current mood: | |
| Status: |
Offline
|
| Mana: | |
|
Posted: Sun Nov 16th, 2008 09:43 am |
|
Hi bhandari1951
I have very basic question but it always confusing. Well as fate line is concerned v believe that if its good then v r going to have good fate. LIke V see in daily life some ppl put less efforts and gets more reward and it is called their luck/fate. So wat does it mean, real efforts of one person makes no sense? its just fate line that makes difference? So influence of fate on our success
not our right decisions and struggle?
So cant v make/change our fate?
ONE thing wate about lines, do they get change with time?
Hope u will get my point wat i realy wanna ask?
____________________
~zOnI
|
Current time is 10:00 pm | |
|
|
|
|
