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Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 03:15 pm |
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I read on the internet (I dont know if its a credible source) that homosexuality is shown in hands.
In women, the index finger is much smaller than the ring finger (lesbians).
If they are almost same then they are heterosexual.
In men, although ring fingers are always longer than index fingers, the difference has to be substantial to make that claim - that they are gay.
Anyone who wishes to be anonymous or not and volunteer to post their hands and claim they are homosexual, would be really helpful.
Any opinions from experts?
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Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 04:05 pm |
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 That's new to me, I am interested in what the others say about that. I have read in Johnny Fincham's book that a heart line that terminates in a drooping manner to the line of head is a "possible" indicator. I would not have the courage to make that prediction on somebody even if I had convincing evidence, that might really screw with someone's head a little if the interpretation is not accurate.
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Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 04:42 pm |
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Hello Hansi & Den,
Yes, I can confirm the fact that scientific research programs in various countries have related the digit ratio (2D:4D the ratio between the index finger and ring finger) to sexual orientation in men AND women.
(by the way, this rather 'old' news has frequently been resported in various media during the past years)
However ... this should not get you towards the idea that you can actually simply 'read' the sexual orientation from the digit ratio. For, the scientific result have always only presented a significant statistical result on VARIOUS SEXUAL POPULATIONS.
A few months ago I presented an article on my website which informs you in detail about the implications of this research, see:
The Science of Gaydar
http://www.handresearch.com/news/the-science-of-gaydar.htm
(in this article you can read that handedness and fingerprint characteristics are also 'significant' features to consider in this perspective)
And I also would recommend you to read this review article about John Mannings first book on Digit Ratio:
http://www.human-nature.com/nibbs/02/manning.html
Last edited on Wed May 28th, 2008 05:15 pm by hand_research
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Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 06:25 pm |
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Thanks for the links Martijn
Den, you are right - I would be hesitant to ask that to someone I knew. But, then its easy to ask a stranger because its less likely for them to be offended especially if you are giving a free reading. I am sure if the subject is paying money to you and if you place this trait or ask him/her-- he/she is not going to be a happy customer. 
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Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 07:30 pm |
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Hansi,
From the sources in my answer above you can derive a perspective which will be interesting for anyone - at least for someone who has an interest to hear a bit more about hands in general beyond his/her own hand.
For example: you can alsways inform a subject that a low digit ratio (a very short index finger compared to the length of the ring finger) is associated with e.g.:
More fertile, Higher lifetime reproductive success, More aggressive and assertive, Greater proclivity toward homosexuality/bisexuality, Higher musical and sports aptitude, Autism, etc.
Informing your client about this piece of modern scientific research, will likely provide your client a story worth telling to other people.
Last edited on Thu May 29th, 2008 12:59 am by hand_research
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Posted: Wed May 28th, 2008 07:38 pm |
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Posted: Sat Jul 5th, 2008 08:49 am |
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There's a book called "Sexual Palmistry", and in there it gives traits to all the forms of sexuality. You can read it on the internet, but I've got trouble finding it on the internet, when I find it I'll post the link, as well place it on the website.
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Posted: Sat Jul 5th, 2008 10:14 am |
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Hi Alain,
Yes, I know the book. Quite interesting.
You can read it online at Google-books:
http://books.google.com/books
This is a direct link to: 'Sexual Palmistry' by Nathaniel Altman (I recently heard he is living now in New York):
http://books.google.com/books?hl=en&id=a0H2OcJbQ9EC&dq=Sexual+Palmistry&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=GXRhNLu0fz&sig=wDZGdhzT0HG5MfsclNN22dOnIb4&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=1&ct=result
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Posted: Sun Jul 6th, 2008 05:57 pm |
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Hansi
small index finger indicates that person has a level of self esteem low and such person can be expected to do anything because he/she does not concern what one thinks about him but cannot be sure sign of this.
We should try to get some prints for comparative study.
I will try to get any.
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Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2008 09:05 am |
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Hi there,
I've never looked at finger length for homosexuality or being a lesbian.
But.. I can confirm through two friends of mine (who are a lesbian couple) that their heart line does in fact droop down to the head line, one has drooping of the line and the other has a line at the end which seems to be a branch which goes down at the end of the line and touches the head line.
I have read that this sign can also mean that the person likes to have one deep friendship and that friendship is more important than any other relationship.
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Posted: Mon Jul 7th, 2008 01:49 pm |
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saage wrote: Hi there,
their heart line does in fact droop down to the head line, one has drooping of the line and the other has a line at the end which seems to be a branch which goes down at the end of the line and touches the head line.
Does that indicate insecurity in love more than homosexuality? Just a curious thought.. More so because, in homosexual relations - either or both partners are not in any institution of marriage so they feel they are not committed or the partner is not committed and they strongly hold on to their love and hence feel insecure...
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Posted: Tue Jul 8th, 2008 08:14 am |
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HI,
Well I'm not an expert on gays and lesbians and why they are who they are, I don't believe insecurity comes into it, as far as being gay, but more the deep make up of their hormones or something. The couple I'm referring to are not insecure, and very committed. Maybe if a person has these line markings and they are not gay, then the insecurity thing might come into it.
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Posted: Mon Aug 18th, 2008 06:40 am |
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Interesting stuff. Personally so far I've found the drooping line from heart to head to be accurate, though I read somewhere recently that it only forms if someone has negative issues and insecurites regarding their sexuality. Does this relate to the hetero populace as well I wonder?
As far as the 2d-4d ratio, I haven't found it valid. Would the shorter index be found in fems (both sexes), and longer index for the more butch?
What about bi-folk? What about trans-folk? I read one of my friends who is an f-m and you'd never know he had ever been female. He does have the drooping line, and perfectly balanced fingers of apollo and jupiter.
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Posted: Mon Aug 18th, 2008 11:14 am |
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Samudra wrote: Interesting stuff. Personally so far I've found the drooping line from heart to head to be accurate, though I read somewhere recently that it only forms if someone has negative issues and insecurites regarding their sexuality. Does this relate to the hetero populace as well I wonder?
As far as the 2d-4d ratio, I haven't found it valid. Would the shorter index be found in fems (both sexes), and longer index for the more butch?
What about bi-folk? What about trans-folk? I read one of my friends who is an f-m and you'd never know he had ever been female. He does have the drooping line, and perfectly balanced fingers of apollo and jupiter.
-Samudra
Hello Samudra,
The answer to your question is:
No, the reverse was indicated by various studies: the butch more often have a lower 2D:4D ratio (index- compared to ringfinger), compared to the average of the fems.
You can read more details in this study:
https://www.msu.edu/~breedsm/pdf/ButchFemme.pdf (PDF-article)
But there is much more info about likewise researches available on the internet.
Last edited on Mon Aug 18th, 2008 11:15 am by hand_research
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Posted: Wed Nov 12th, 2008 11:41 pm |
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what ever u mention about lesbian n homosexual stuf fis completly lame cpmplelty lame...................if the jupiter fingr is very high it means ur prince..or the person with most respectble high post...while the small one indecates person having..low in post wise..or...in any field...
small middle fingr means saturn fingr indecates a gambler..persona who loves to gamble and even takes his life as a gamble..
small apollo fingr indecates...nto gud in aratistic charachtr...while normal n big indecate full artistic charactr..
small lady fingr indecates..person with low comunication skill...
while the high or bg lady fingr than apollo fingr indecate politian..well known speaker,,,mastr in debates..
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Posted: Thu Nov 13th, 2008 04:33 am |
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Hello Sara,
At the age of 15-25 do you have a right to call yourself a professional? with your attitude and especially when you don't even spell your words correctly.
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Posted: Thu Nov 13th, 2008 04:53 am |
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| oh thxx for the comment ...i dunt need ur advise ok...y dunt u mind ur business old lady...
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Posted: Thu Nov 13th, 2008 04:54 am |
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| n yeah maybe i m far better than u....
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| You just proved your unprofessionalism.
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Posted: Fri Nov 14th, 2008 11:34 am |
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| y r u so envy of me...u cant stand other i think so...if i proved my unprofessionalism..then u rpoved ur envisim...this site is not pointing about who is professional and who is not..instead of telling my mistake u r getting on me?..thissite is for helping eachother u got it...not for pointing out like u doing..
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Posted: Sun Nov 16th, 2008 09:25 am |
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Hey sara go ahead age got nothing to do with knowledge, U may find young ppl
sharper than elder ones. so knowledge varies according to ur mental appraoch, the
time u give and ur interest.
Okayz :d
yup v shud take care of eachothers feelings nd ideas .
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Posted: Sun Nov 16th, 2008 10:45 am |
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| OH THXX ZONI....dats what i was tryign to convinve her..khairz...very well spoken. thx alot buddy..
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Posted: Sun Nov 16th, 2008 03:12 pm |
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Sorry for jumping into this discussion, but I think this is definitely going off topic! Sara_sk, I don't think expressing yourself towards Saage in such an arrogant tone is helping you to get the respect you want from others.
Regarding the topic, I'm not lesbian (as far as I know  ) but I've got one drooping branch of my heartline going down to the headline. Jena Griffiths says this is one of many power-giveaway-markers - that you don't stand up for yourself enough or are afraid of conflicts. In my case, it makes sense.
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