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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 02:10 am |
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I thought it would be nice to use "A Personal Experience" part of the forum for a change and create a topic on overcoming/making progress in the Life Lesson aspect of handreading.
My Life Lesson is right jupiter, so it would be of great benefit for me to excel in jupiter traits. I did something very jupiterean for me today. We had a horrible storm in Cincinnati, many roofs were damaged. My friend manages a crew of roofing estimators and asked if I wanted to run some leads and measure for some extra money. I have never done that before, I work around chemistry/pharmaceutical labs, pretty safe. I was determined not to be a wimp about it and said yes. I had to climb up 2 stories and measure/estimate. I will not be quitting my day job, but I am glad that I at least stepped out there and did it on my own the last couple of days (and didn't fall 2 stories off a house either, thank God).
If anyone else would like to share your experiences, I think it would be a great opportunity to see the readings on a more practical level.
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Posted: Fri Sep 26th, 2008 02:36 am |
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Hi Den,
Thanks for starting this forum, it will defiantly help me to pay more attention to my complicated Life Lesson on everyday bases. With my Left Saturn and Left Apollo it is challenging, but possible.
Give me some time, I am sure I will dig up something,
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Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2008 03:11 pm |
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Hey Den! Don't you feel fulfilled, excited and energized by doing something that matches your purpose? Doesn't it make you want to do something else to help others, Mr. Jupiter? Wow! You really are brave and ambitious to get out there and climb up on a roof! It's much easier to do that for the benefit of another, isn't it? No way would I ever get up on my roof but if someone else asked me for help....well, I'd have to think about it!!
I'm really going to have to figure out this life purpose thing! Very Interesting!
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Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2008 09:41 pm |
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You should explore the Lifeprints system when you get time Karla, or better yet send me your fingerprint pictures and I will give a freebie(actually everyone gets a freebie, but wanted you to feel special).
Anyways, my life lesson is right jupiter, and I am trying to keep myself in "check" on the issues of leadership, ambition, expanding my influence...yada yada yada. I am very new at this technique and have enjoyed the practice on the other members of our forum. Always a pleasure Karla...
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Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2008 10:06 pm |
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You're in luck! I have the flu! Well, that didn't sound quite right..what I mean is. I'm home with the flu and have been printing my own hands out of sheer boredom. I hate being idle. Here are the finger prints and I'm going to post the whole hands too on anothere thread. This is cool because I have 2006 prints and 2008 prints. I wonder if anyone can spot differences
My thoughts are:
Right hand: Thumb Loop, Index whorl, Saturn Loop, Apollo whorl and pinkie whorl
Left hand: Thumb Peacock? Index Loop, Saturn Loop, Apollo whorl and pinkie ? I dunno? Peacock?
Could also be a composite loop on left index.
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Posted: Wed Oct 8th, 2008 11:45 pm |
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 Wow, the flu...sorry to hear that Karla. The peacocks in question will probably require some prints with a straight-on view so I can look at the tri-radii. I will look at the other post when you post them on the other thread. Composites have the "s" shape in the middle. They are often called a double loop in the system. I will get an analysis together once I can confirm the prints. Get well Karla.
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Posted: Thu Oct 9th, 2008 03:07 pm |
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Thanks Den! Back to work today! Much better! I hope you can see the fingerprints better on the other post because I had a hell of a time getting my own fingerprints! Took me like 6 tries! Fine ridges really are a pain. Perhaps that's why I haven't delved into this area as much. Technical difficulties. Do you use an ink pad?
Anyway, I'm looking forward to other answers regarding your topic. It's one think to know your Life Lesson, but how is it appearing and affecting you? Good idea. Plus I'm nosy and love to read people's stories.
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Posted: Mon Oct 13th, 2008 02:39 pm |
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My Life Lesson- Guilt issues Disapproval Fears (Left Saturn and Left Apollo)
"I don't deserve to be myself/just being who I am isn't valuable"
My Fulfillment Formula -Big Shot Wise Innovative Mentor
“Someone who impacts others through the sharing of your wisdom about how to value self and be true to self/individuality”
Well I know it took me a while to post my Life Lesson in practice, however after long hours of analysis, I realized that I lived my Life Lesson through my teenage time. Now thinking about it, I feel like back then I gave up on my life and did not want to make any changes and accepted my Life the way it was. I had no interest of achieving anything, or even learn anything. I was not depressed, NO, not at all, I just did not care what would happen to me and how I will live my life. I just remember that being who I am isn’t valuble, and I will not make any difference to people around me. Nobody would listen to anyway, nobody cared for what I thought or had to say. I was living my life from day to day, following everyday routine and not pricing or appreciating myself. Following other people without questions, doing things and acting spontaneously (I know it is part of being teenager, but my case was little bit more extreme, because I did not do it to proof anything to anyone, but opposite, because I did not care about circumstances)
I guess unconsciously I knew that it is nor right to live that way. Unconsciously I was searching for the way out, however I was not realizing it because I was always going with the life flow.
What happened in my 20’s changed my life and put me to the path of my Life Purpose (at least partially). Once again I went with the life’s flow, not fighting what life had offered me, not trying to prevent or run away from it, so I got pregnant and got into a serious relationship.
After I had my first child, I fulfill my life purpose (at list partially), I partially became Wise Innovative Mentor to my children with the strong desire to be better at it. I still live this path even though I am facing my Life Lesson on daily bases, but I fill stronger, because I can not let myself go deep into the state of my Life Lesson, and have to search for Purpose and my Muster Path, to keep my role / position as a mother and mentor to my little once.
I believe that this was my first step to my Fulfillment, and I am sure that my Life will give me more opportunities to fulfill my Purpose, but so far I think it was most significant change that made a big difference within me and gave me a right direction.
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Posted: Tue Oct 14th, 2008 07:15 am |
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Thanks for sharing Helen, it is amazing to hear the experiences of others and respect you putting it out there. I have found that my children have been a huge influence on me to become better, and trust me, there are many things I have to overcome still, but I am pushing forward. I believe that the life lessons are there for mastery for us, they become mini life purposes in themselves.
The issue with me is becoming frustrated when I do not take enough control and go with the flow too often, then get frustrated when some petty tyrant wants to be directing my actions or emotional state...just brings out the worst in me unfortunately. Do you feel that guilt issues are a way of controlling you? In other words, do others close to you try to control you with this whole issue revolving guilt? Thanks for embracing my post, much appreciated.
Den
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Posted: Thu Nov 13th, 2008 06:41 pm |
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Den wrote:
The issue with me is becoming frustrated when I do not take enough control and go with the flow too often, then get frustrated when some petty tyrant wants to be directing my actions or emotional state...just brings out the worst in me unfortunately. Do you feel that guilt issues are a way of controlling you? In other words, do others close to you try to control you with this whole issue revolving guilt? Thanks for embracing my post, much appreciated.
Den
Hi Den,
I am sorry it took me so long to answer your questions. I had lot of going on lately, lot of re-evaluation, analysis concerning my past and present. I did remember you, but could not find a right time to put my experienced on paper.
Let say I feel that guilt on daily bases, and believe me my daughter is making sure that I do it. If I tell you that my daughter still remembers the time when I missed her dance rehearsal when she was only 4 years old, you probably would not believe me. But any time she wants to manipulate me she is using this example to present my skills in motherhood. As you know I also work far away from home, so my daily commute is 2hours one way, you can imagine how this fact is being used against me, when most of the mothers in my neighborhood as housewives.
What I learned from my daughter and from my situation is that anger and reaction is not helping it at all. It is like if dogs feel that you are afraid of them, they will be barking and attacking you, but if you ignore them and keep your inner self calm, the actually loosing interest in you. I found that children are similar, if they know or sense your weakness, they will make sure of using it, just for sake of using it.
I am using similar method with my daughter. Anytime she would say anything that brings that little demon (and guilt) inside me, I just shot myself (from inside) and do not listen. I ignore her comments and changing subject. (I do same with my husband too sometimesJ)
It is not that easy to rich the state of peace when you have love once manipulating it, however with time it leads to less conflicts and peacfull environment, at least in my case.
I was listening to Eckhart Tolle “A New Earth” at Oprah’s Soul Series Webcast. “Pain Bodies” are actually is one of the topic that was very beneficial for me in above issue. I am posting a link below for you to check out. Let me know what you think.
http://www.oprah.com/article/spirit/inspiration/pkgoprahssoulserieswebcast/20080526_oaf_oss_etolle
Helen
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Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2008 02:46 am |
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Hi Helen and thanks for replying.
I will check out Mr. Tolle's commentary. Living in the present moment is a good lesson. Sounds like he has some theories on the ego. I am currently listening to Wayne Dyers latest, "Wisdom of the Tao". Books on tape are my hobby and I love stuff like this. Thanks for the information. I have heard of his book " The power of Now"; I will have to see if the library has a copy.
My daughters are quite good at pulling the emotional strings as well. Good to hear from you.
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Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2008 03:06 am |
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Hi Den,
You can download his interview with Oprah on i-pod or computer, he is giving a nice commentaries and answering people's questions. I found it a westernized version of ancient spiritual teachings.
You may also try to listen to Thich Nhat Hanh "The Art of Mindfulness" and "The Art of Power". I think they should have it in library.
I do not think it will be about ego and pain bodies, but it will be a great experience to listen another view / perception and way of teaching.
I am looking forward to hear about more Life Lesson experiences since it is happening to all of us on daily bases.
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Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2008 03:10 am |
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Den wrote:
My daughters are quite good at pulling the emotional strings as well. Good to hear from you.
I guess it is women side of the character to pull the emotional strings, I never experienced it from my son, at least not yet.
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Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2008 11:01 am |
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My son pulls his mommy's strings
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Posted: Mon Nov 17th, 2008 01:57 pm |
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Ok, I guess I have something ahead of me to experience.
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Posted: Mon Nov 24th, 2008 01:16 am |
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hi my names ashley, i have this weird thing on my hand. i got my palm read today by my boyfriends boss. he's a really cool guy. i researched the weird marking on my hand but i couldnt find anything. on my right hand at the bottom left i have a circles surrounding a smaller one. they just get bigger and bigger around this small one. i have the same thing on my left hand but its in the bottom right. i was wondering if anyone knew what it ment.
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Posted: Mon Nov 24th, 2008 01:23 am |
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| hi ashley. welcome to the forum. sounds like you might have whorls or some other palmar pattern on luna mount. Better to start a new discussion and post pics of your hands - you put your question in the wrong place, in the middle of a different discussion.
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