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Posted: Sat Jun 14th, 2008 09:56 am |
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Hi,
I discovered card readings as a child from my mother, it seemed to me that they were quite accurate.. but that was coming from my own readings and that of my mothers. I took up reading the Tarot instead of regualr cards eleven years ago, and have found that in most cases, to be accurate in the description of the persons current state of affairs.
I wonder if this is because the cards help to tap into our intuition, or the intuition of the person having the reading... To test the Tarot, even as a reader myself, I went to a Tarot reader in order to test their ability. To my surprise, they were quite good. But was it simply my mind being 'tricked' by the right words they used?
I use the Tarot to 'feel' what might be the right situation for the person at the time, so the same card will have a different meaning depending on the person and the question.
I am happy to continue Tarot along with Palmistry, I believe they go together well. Especially when the questions the clients ask are impossible to see on their hands.
Should I? Can I? What should I do?
Any comments welcome! 
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Posted: Sun Jun 15th, 2008 07:56 am |
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Hi,
I FEEL what you said is close to my heart BUT am helpless to accept it as a fact.
WHY?
May be I have not put much effort in trying or evaluating Tarot.
May be I have seen so many tarot readers on TV who predict in a few seconds.
May be I have not find any relation or mention of Tarot in OLD eastern Occult.
But definately if an occultist is having inner power to communicate with other world & is being guided by other elements & knows Numerology well ,, then & then is applicable.
Palmistry is showing the facts,,small nails means heart problem, bulging glass like nails show TB and many more.
Palmistry shows the effect of Stars & palnets as a map,, the native who has good mount of saturn is a proof of good placement of saturn planet in his birth chart, The native who is angry and a fighter ( verbally of physically) has bulging mounts of Mars indicating importance of Planet mars in his birth chart.
But can you explain or shade more light how can we relate Plamistry to Tarot, I would be very grateful as can not trust other tarot readers to as as such.
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Posted: Mon Jun 16th, 2008 12:57 am |
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Hi,
Thanks for your reply.
I wouldn't say I related Tarot to Palmistry at all. But, like I said, it goes well together with my readings as most people who are interested in a palm reading are also interested in having their cards 'read', even for the entertainment of it.
I understand that Tarot has had it's misunderstandings, but that is all down to who is doing the reading, (there's a few out there who would be classed as 'loopy') and whether or not they actually have a connection to their intuition with regarding answers we seek.
Most Tarot readers tapping into their intuition, are not sitting there thinking about the answer, if they did, they would be using their logic instead, that's why many of their answers come so quick.
It was my studies in card readings as a teenager which brought about my interest in Palmistry, which I have now studied for more than twenty years, so I have no doubts in my own beliefs on the accuracy of a good palmist. The Tarot is simply complimentary in the sense that it captures and interests people.
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Karla Kogan
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 04:29 am |
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Hi Saage! I hear what you are saying about being interested in one subject and somehow finding yourself drawn into another! I loved Palmistry from the start because I felt it was scientific rather than some fluffy mystical thing. NOW, I channel using a pendulum and have a Tarot deck I was given as a gift that I find fascinating. What happened to Miss Scientific??? I think what it boils down to is a desire to find the best answer for the situation in from of you. There are people I can help by reading their palm but often what they need goes beyond that. I connect to spirits using the pendulum and often find the right answer there. A good example was at the last psychic fair. I sat next to a friend who is an amazing Tarot reader and so sweet and nurturing, a very kind soul. She had a client at her table she wasn't getting a good feel for regarding a certain situation. I had nobody at my table so she leaned over and asked if I could try with the pendulum. I wrote down everything I received and gave it to them at the end of their reading. It was amazing how much similar information we had! The problem wasn't with us..it was the client who wanted to hear something else!
Anyway, long story short, it seems apparant that we all have tools that work for us to help others. If you don't explore different avenues (safely and with good intent, of course) how do you know what your tools are? It's like going to the hardware store and buying a screwdriver but not knowing whether or not you'll need a phillips or standard head. Better have both! I applaud your curiousity and interest in new things that feel right!
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 04:42 am |
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Hello,
Thanks Karla, I agree with you and about the pedulum too. I have found so many uses for it, it's great. I even found lost objects, but often the pendulum is simply the source which taps into your own psyci. so not exact answers but if you are asking yourself, do I want to?... then it's good.
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Posted: Tue Jun 17th, 2008 05:22 am |
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It seems like I have met alot of people who use pendulums. Even the minister who married us! I use a chart and spell out letter by letter the messages. Time consuming but luckily my guide and I are pretty fast with that spinning pendulum. I am awed by people who can receive messages with thought, or tone or picture. So much faster! I'm happy though, becasue if I don't get it..I can ask for the message to be repeated. I do that ALOT! Lack of focus!
I was thinking after I sent the last post. I have alot of friends who don't embrace palmistry and most likely think I'm a bit whacked for talking to our dearly departed on a regular basis. But they have their own tools to help others. A gift for nursing, a passion for children or the care of the aged, a love of the law they use for the betterment of less fortunate, a gift for building or a talent for art. Those aren't things I possess..not in my toolbox anywhere. Lord knows I've looked! Palmistry is great for pointing out some of the talents people DO have and SHOULD be using..it's written in thier hands! I don't expect everyone to understand what I do, but I surely respect the things that come naturally to others and it's really cool to see it in a reading.
Oh my ..past my bedtime! Au Revoir Mes Amis!
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Posted: Wed Jun 18th, 2008 01:01 am |
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Hi again,
I like what you said about looking for the other parts of yourself in your toolbox.. I know what you mean, I could never be a nurse! If I had time and money I possibly would have studied psychology as well, but it wasn't meant to be. I'm as excited about palmistry now as I was when I first discovered it!
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 01:15 pm |
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Interesting subject.
I was a professional tarot reader long before I studied palms (or numerology which is another of my specialities). I find a great balance between the psychologies of the latter systems and the predictive base of tarot.
Palmistry and numerology are good, nay, brilliant, at personality delineations but neither have the depth nor the details I require for making 'accurate' predictions or assessments of the chains of reaction and relation between the many individuals who can influence a pathway.
Palmistry and numerology deal with an individual whereas tarot deals with society.
As with all my studies, and I admit I have a few (I'm a jack of all trades, master of a few), I see them as an extension of my own self, a skill or talent, and not as a gift.
My reasoning is more semantic and pedantic than anything more deeply philosophical: a gift is given to you and is therefore not owned by you, it can be easily passed on to another and can thus just as easily be taken from you. A skill or talent is something you develop for and in yourself, it is beholden to no-one else's charity, discretion, or direction but your own.
Tarot cards are merely pictures on a bit of card; the 'magic' comes from your mind. I own my talents, skill, and my failures and foibles. I grow stronger by knowing my strengths and my weaknesses; I can make my perceived weaknesses into strengths and my over-strong strengths more malleable.
I also have learnt not to take myself too seriously, and to laugh at myself when I fall into what I term my "Lecture Mode" as I have just done. <GRIN>
Tobias
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Posted: Mon Jun 23rd, 2008 02:30 pm |
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Hail Tobias! The Glorious Orater! We love your lectures! I agree with your comparison of gifts and skills!! I feel like finding palmistry and speaking to my guide are blessings/gifts and therefore to be shared! That's the purpose to having them! It's like being given the coolest new phone system..you have to call someone to even make use of it! We could all sit around and study, study, study until we think we have learned all there is to know about palmistry..but without that warm and wonderful hand to hold and someone's eyes to look into while reading..what good is the knowledge? Yes, it may be a skill but it is the GIVING of the reading that is the gift to be shared. Hmm. I'm sure my attitude is the reason I make very little money doing this! Ha ha ha ha!
I also find it difficult to make "predictions" using palmistry and use a combination of tools in those types of readings. I found it interesting that you can use Tarot, which you indicated dealt with society as a whole, to assist with making personal predictions. Is it our reaction to the world around us that makes it possible to see what is coming ahead? I'm trying to study Tarot but haven't quite absorbed all the meanings..I have to refer to the book for each card. Kudos to anyone who can do a huge spread and remember what everyting is supposed to mean!
Hugs to you Tobias! Are you learning any new skills or been given any special gifts lately?
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Posted: Tue Jun 24th, 2008 07:15 am |
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Hi Karla,
Are you learning any new skills or been given any special gifts lately?
I recently acquired a new year for my birthday, giving me a collection of 47 years so far. I am using them sparingly as I have been informed that they don't last for as long as they used to.
The 'secret' to remembering what all those cards mean (78 upright meanings and 78 reversed meanings multiplied by the number of positions in a spread... hmm that makes a minimum of 1,560 meanings with the celtic cross [10 positions] and 8,112 for the yearly spread [52 positions]), isn't all that secret and certainly not hard to do: forget the meanings you learnt from your books and your tutors and just let your intuition tell you what the meaning is from what you 'pick up' from the cards themselves.
In simple terms: Trust yourself.
Hugs back to you,
Tobias
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Posted: Fri Jun 27th, 2008 08:45 am |
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I recently acquired a new year for my birthday, giving me a collection of 47 years so far. I am using them sparingly as I have been informed that they don't last for as long as they used to.
Lol Tobias - you have such a way with words!
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Posted: Fri Aug 1st, 2008 09:27 pm |
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I use tarot on almost on daily basis, and every time I have they have given me the true meaning of a situation and the reflection of myself. To me tarot is extremely accurate, but I personally believe that tarot is a reflection of yourself, it's unable to tell you nor show you the future.
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Posted: Sun Aug 31st, 2008 11:52 am |
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Hi,
Tarot Readings, I personally feel very funny about it. How can someone tell whats happening or what's going to happen or what happened with the help of some bunch of cards. Is it just a kind of mind reading or just to make some one comfortable at difficult times in life ............ Really don't understand how these work.
What I feel is a person who has intuition in reading Tarot and to predict accurately should definetly have the kind of intuition Nostradamus had when comparing it with Palm Reading and its accuracy.
I have watched Tarot readings on TV and what I noticed in common with all the Tarot readers on TV shows is the surrounding always seems to be very Glamorous and the attire the Tarrot reader wears makes the person look like the fairy-lunasprite image. This is a common feature I noticed. And why is this so ? Do these Tarot readers want to create an atmosphere which will win over / take over, your mind and you are in kind of a trans kinda situation. I don't understand why a Tarot reader has to create such an artificial surrounding on TV shows.
But I can surely tell one thing that is ...... nothing can beat Palmistry since it is evident in your hands.
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