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pn73 wrote: TIME LINE (An Alternative Way of Analyzing)

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Author: Prem  .... lol     :)
 
This is an article I am writing about how one can arrive at overall welfare/events in ones life time and to know where it is heading in the immediate future. Long term future cannot be predicted, but one should be able to access the overall past, present and where the next short term (2-6 years) future is heading for.
 
This calculating system will work better for people who are 25 + years old. The more older the more better prediction/outcome. This system/calculation can work along side with Palmistry, Astrology, Tarot, …….etc. By using this method one should  be able to cross check the accuracy of any prediction irrespective of the method used for obtaining a prediction namely (Astrology, Palmistry, Tarot … etc).  One can actually arrive at where things are heading for weather it is on the +ve side or on the – ve side of the overall welfare of a subject.
 
I never read this anywhere but it was going on in my mind for quite some time, hence I thought of sharing this view of mine in this forum and get feedbacks. You can also find  sample graphical illustration along with this article for you to make it simple and understand easily what I am trying to convey to the readers of this article.
 
BASIC TIMELINE PRINCIPLE  

Well life is like a Sine Wave where one has up’s and down’s in everybody’s life irrespective of weather one is a rich man or a poor man. Everybody has problems and every body has its share of happiness and sorrow in one’s lifetime. The overall effect of problems and happiness is the same for everybody. What I mean to say is, the happiness a rich man can get in his surroundings is the same happiness a poor man can get in his surroundings and vice versa with the problems too. So the effectiveness is the same on mankind.
 
As I said, life is like a Sine Wave Pattern. A sine wave or sinusoid is a function that occurs often in mathematics, physics, signal processing, audition, electrical engineering, and many other fields. In a sine wave the waveform is shifted by time. A negative value represents a "delay", and a positive value represents a "head-start".
 
This wave pattern occurs often in nature, including ocean waves, sound waves, and light waves. Also, a rough sinusoidal pattern can be seen in plotting average daily temperatures for each day of the year.
 
This principle can be applied in our life too and we should be able to get a fair idea where things are or should be heading in the near future. Below you can find a sample graph where in I have tried to show the pattern of our life with respect to Overall Welfare against the Years.
 
The reason why I feel this theory can be studied in depth because life is full of up’s and down’s. No one can have a life only of Good Times (Happiness) and only of Bad Times (Sorrow). It is the combination of both these things. And when you combine both and try to give it a graphical representation the output/graph looks like a sine wave pattern. This sine wave need not be a perfect sine wave but can be of an irregular patterned sine wave. But the end result should be in the form of a sine wave.
 
Now coming to the main point. On this sine wave where the line pattern shifts from ( + Positive to – Negative ) OR (  – Negative  to + Positive) this is an important time which can be called as a Nodal Point.
 
To arrive at this, what one has to do is recollect your past years (should have at least 25 years of past life data with you). In these past years from the day of birth till the present day, you do a self analysis of yourself and try to find out the maximum (+ve) and minimum (-ve) points you can give for the overall welfare within a span of every 10 years.
 
So for every 10 years try to give a maximum points and minimum points and mark it as shown in the illustration or a graph paper. If possible try to divide these 10 years in to bits of smaller years (say divide it by 2, 3  or 4 years clusters) so you should get 2,3, 4 markings points for that 10 years period as per your convenience and give the points and mark the points on the paper. Keep doing this till of what age you are and finally try to join all the points. You should be able to get a graphical sine wave patterned interpretation.
 
Once you get this graphical pattern interpretation try to mark the NODAL POINTS. Highest and the Lowest  point on the sine wave. When finally done your graphical output should look something like the illustration diagram below.
 
These Nodal Points are very important.  Based on the last nodal point on X Axis (i.e which should be the present nodal point) One can certainly tell where you are heading for in the immediate future (2-6 years). You should be able to read the overall sine wave pattern and if the present Nodal Point is at the highest ( + ve ) side then the next direction in most cases should be towards a ( - ve ) direction for some time.  And if the present Nodal Point is at the lowest ( - ve ) then your next direction in life is towards the highest one ( + ve).
 
If one can successfully arrive at an accurate outcome based on the above description try interpreting the timings of this with the timings predictions with Astrology, Palmistry, Numerology, Tarot ….etc. Even if you are not interested in interpreting this with other predictions ( Astrology, Palmistry, Numerology ) you should be able to get a fair idea of where the overall welfare is heading for.
 
Finally let me put it this way “For every action, there is always an equal and opposite reaction” (this is Newton’s Law). In other words what goes up should come down and what is at the bottom should always go up (Well as far as with the Sine Wave Pattern is concerned).
 
I have not tried using this principle or method to find out individual characteristics of Fate, Life, Marriage, Health …etc. I have shared my basic fundamental views about the scientific approach to arrive at say call it an Alternative Time Line.
 
The above article might sound funny but I would like you all to give it a try and see. Overall accuracy rate depends up on your self accessing accuracy.
 
I would like to know your comments. Have a great day.


Prem.
 
PS: Thank you for your patience in reading my funny but a reasonable article :thanx

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 Posted: Mon Sep 1st, 2008 05:25 pm

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Dear Prem,

You have wrongly posted the article at wrong head at " open palmistry forum", this article does not have any connection to palmistry so i have Re-posted this Yours article at right head.

Please delete your previous post on it.

:) your article reminds me the college days, in sceince, when i debated and compared the newtons laws with one of the sloke of Gita among my science friend's
group.

Okay just for your interest i am posting a sanskrit which has three meanings :

Katapayaadi system is used to encode numbers in many shlokas, Like in Jaimini updesa sutram.
Here is a shloka for the value of PI, (Actually the shloka has 3 meanings, one gives for Shiva another for Krishna the third is for the number PI )

gopiibhaagya madhuvraataH shruMgashodadhi saMdhigaH .

khalajiivitakhaataava galahaalaa rasaMdharaH ..

ga - 3 pii - 1 bhaa - 4 gya - 1 ma - 5 dhu - 9 ra - 2 ta -6 shru - 5 ga - 3 sho - 5 da - 8 dhi - 9 sa - 7 dha - 9 ga - 3 kha - 2 la - 3 jii - 8 vi - 4 ta - 6 kha - 2 ta - 6 va - 4 ga - 3 la - 3 ra - 2 sa - 7 dha - 9 ra - 2

3.1415926535897932384626433832792

This was send to me by some know person in sanskrit.


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Dear Prem,

May i know any of the systematic approach of life experiences to derive the best possible positive points and negative points for age 0-25 yrs. if person  is of 26 years.

How we can arrive at nodal points in real life situation.
For examples divorce, death of nears and dears ones, any medal or honor received, returning from hospital or going to hospital.

Sorry i didnot understand your concept , how to apply experiences (0-25) in your sines wave format.

Why don't you apply this concept to predict in 'Share trading' and other risky trading, you may be more fortunate.:thumbup
(Many are trying till now no one is able to master it)

We do apply some systematic approach in palmistry or astrology to find out the nodal points in life.:cool OK , Cant we represent our vedic time line approach in a graphical way, You know that vedic astrology concept needs four dimentional plane to maps any thing graphically. What New! in it.

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 Posted: Tue Sep 2nd, 2008 12:56 am

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Hmm,.. So if a person has struggled all their life, it's all going to turn around for the better, just like that? Maths? I think there's a little more to it than that. An uneducated, unmotivated, alcoholic, drug addicted helpless person is not magically going to change their life, even if they wanted to. And a rich well-to-do happy person is not suddenly going to have a fall and become a bumb on the street just because of a 'theory', sorry pn73, you haven't convinced me at all.



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I have decided to change the heading of this topic. It should be like this:

SELF Analyzing TIME LINE (An Alternative Way of Analyzing)


Note: Works well only while Self Analysing your own hand.



Thanks Mr.Vijay Goel Ji for helping post my article under the appropriate heading. So let us keep this discussion/debate going on here on this link.

Let my original link be there too. Let people read it who have no connection about astrology, palmistry .......etc. May be they might find Palmistry interesting and innovating and try to learn more and think differently.

On my original post I will post a message there for posting any comments on this link.

I will reply to yours as well as Saages comments. Give me some time.

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Hi Saage,
 
Let me first clear your doubts.
 
When someone (say “Q”) is born in this world, these are the possibilities that can happen - like  can take birth in a poor family, middle income family, upper income family or a Royal family. Depending on this, Q gets the comforts and pleasures in his childhood life which is one of the factors Q has to consider before analyzing. Then comes the family life of his parents. Was it smooth or was there problems. Based on this Q does a self assessing about himself and rate how his time was, in other words “Overall Welfare” when Q was born and try to give points on the overall welfare OY – Axis and start marking the points till you are of present age. You will get a overall graphical representation of your past life.

A Struggle has to be associated with (Monetary, Family, Individual Happiness …etc) which is why we all call it as Overall Welfare.
 
Now let us take the next case of an uneducated, unmotivated, alcoholic, drug addicted helpless person.

Well as I said earlier no one is born in this world with the above set of characteristics. It is the situation surrounding the person that creates this kind of situation. If you are able to plot the graph of this uneducated, unmotivated, alcoholic, drug addicted helpless person the graph cannot be of a sine wave pattern. It will start on the Y-Axis somewhere with a higher point and then come down between 0 – 1 and if it continues with the same kind of characteristics for many years then all the points should fall between 0-1 till he suffers or comes out of this problem in his life. When you join these points you should be getting a straight line running parallel and close to 0 on X Axis in the first illustration.

You can term this 0 position as  “equivalent to not living at all” or “non existence”  comparable to death.
 
Now let us take the case of a person born in a Royal family. For such a person statistically the overall welfare points should start from far above the half mark on the Y – axis (above 7) because of the conditions surrounding that person. Remember the phrase “born with a golden spoon in mouth” makes the person gain that kind of points on Y-axis.  Now after birth this graph can go up or down for this person too. Downward slope of the graph can be too steep or a gradual steep to 0 (zero). But the upward graph is limited only till 10 points. Because anything above 10 can be considered HEAVENLY SATISFACTION and one can experience these kind of satisfaction only after death …. lol.

So a rich man too will have a problem’s in his life. The only thing is that when the graph slope goes down for people born with very high points on Y – axis they will mentally start suffering have unwanted worries …. etc, and hence their resistance power to face hardships in life decreases as the slope goes downwards and if the curve is sudden steep then the mental disaster is more.
 
Similarly if there is a sudden and a very steep up ward graph (say somewhere from 1-2 to  7-8 on Y-axis within a very-very short 2-4 span of years)  then again you will find funny behaviour with these kind of people and they start acting like demigods which is not a sign of a healthy happy welfare in life.
 
Hence in both the cases they will never have peace of mind. Thus overall what I would like to say is the pattern of life should be in the form of a sine wave irrespective of weather it starts from below or above the half way mark on Y- axis. Only when pattern is in the form of a gradual sine wave one can say that  “I am experiencing the life to my utmost content ”.
 
Happiness is not directly linked with money and one cannot buy happiness with the help of money. Life is a mixture of Sweet and Salt only then your soul will be content.
 
Let me give a practical example relating the above statement.
 
What will happen if you go on having only sweet excessively? Your blood sugar level will increase and affect your health.

&

What will happen if you go on having only salt excessively? Your blood sugar level should decrease and affect your health.
 
So there has to be a harmony in the form of sine wave between Sweet and Salt.

Prem

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Vijay Goel ji,
I will soon try to post to your query here. I did not loggin for sometime.
Prem.

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Hello,

Ok, thanks for that, I'm planning my uphill battle to riches now.

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Vijay Goel ji,
Well the topic I am trying to discuss is just some simple outlook calculations of ones time. I am not getting involved palmistry, astrology, tarrot .... etc. What I am trying to explain is the significance of Sine Wave pattern. Our life cycle should also be like a sine wave pattern. There should be a pattern of flow of energies from good to bad (+ve to -ve) and from bad to good (-ve to +ve). Generally this pattern is in the form of a sine wave. If it is in the form of a sine wave once can say life is content or else then there is something wrong in the life pattern.

You should be aware of Ramayana. Here let me take the example of Lord Ram. If you see the pattern of Lord Rama's life it will be in the form of a good sine wave. In the initial stages of his childhood Rama got all the comforts in his life and was a Prince. Then after his marriage to Sita Rama has to go on a Vanavas, then again come back to Ayodhya become the King again and later death. The sine wave pattern should have been a perfect wide patterned sine wave and not like the first illustration shown above.

Another example I would like to give is about Gautama Buddha. Again here it should be the pattern of a wide angled sine wave. First the Prince Life, then he see's the actual world and his quest to know reality of life, then comes Enlightment and and subsiquently death at the last nodal point.

Both the examples above you can find a perfect or almost smooth wide sine wave pattern. What do you understand from this. The smoother and wider the sine wave pattern the the more the spritual content is achieved in life and one has experienced everything earthly pleasures and hardship in one's life.



Well as far as death are concerned a person can be happy or sad in the long run, if someone close to them have died. Well you must be wondering how ? This two cases below can explain the significance of death and its effect on ones life.

Happy and not causing Damaging Effect to your life:

When someone close to you dies after living the entire life say 70 + or so. In the immediate long term it will not harm you much. And you will be content and happy for that person who has died.

Sad and causing Damaging Effect in your life:

When someone close to you and dear to you dies early in their life, say anywhere between 30 to 60 years it can create some rippling effect on your daily life routine apart from emotional setback. Why because at this part of time you might or also be dependendent on the said person who has died pre-maturely, in taking advise and looking for a direction and guidance from this person who has died pre-maturely. This can be a set-back which can also affect your flow of life.



Regarding share trading if you are really interested to invest huge money on any company, I suggest if you can, try to get hold of old Economic Times News Paper from the "Paper Scrap Dealer's" take a graph sheet and on X - axis mark the Years and on the Y - axis mark the trading Value and start plotting the graph. You should know how stable the company is by seeing the graph pattern. A healthy company should have a gradually increasing sine wave pattern. A very uneven pattern can be of a disturbing trend of that company.  

Also, do you remember the DOTCOM boom from 1997/98 to 2000/02. If you see the graph it would have been a sudden and steep increasing which is a irregular pattern. At the top there is always a threshold (intensity) limit. You cross that threshold limit then what happens it completly crashes. That's what happened. DOTCOM boom created a blob at the upper threshold intensity limit and in the end where the intensity exceeds the normal limit the blob of DOTCOM bursted.

For every aspect in life there is always a higher side threshold limit. How you attain/reach this threshold limit is very important. Sudden attainment of anything not by a proper channel will leave disastrous effect.

Its something like mechanics. Say you have a mechanical engine with piston's in it. If the threshold upper limit for the pistons are 2000 rotation per minute. You have to gradually increase the speed and reach the upper limit of 2000 RPM's. You try to attain it suddenly then wear and tear on the piston as well on the walls of the bore take place. Finally the machine is jammed and out of order due to excessive heat, wear and tear of piston and its walls ... etc.

I hope you can now get a fair idea of this concept which is not at all new.

(Vedic astrology concept needs four dimentional plane to maps any thing graphically). What New! in it.

May I know what are the 4 dimentions please. I am not good at dimensions.

Prem.

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The best example to to know about this pattern where in one can understand and see the results in front of their eyes are national leaders who attain suddenly power by coup. When these leaders do so they attain a threshold (intensity) limit to their maximum which in ordinary normal circumstance would not have been possible by them to achived it using the right channel (+ ve energy or normal flow of energy). 

Their graph pattern will show that they have attained their maximum intensity limit (a high or extreme degree) near 10 points. After that there are only two things that can happen to these people. Either cross the 10 point level which I call (Heavenly Satisfaction) or come down. Staying there for a longer time in a horizontal straight line at 10 point is just not possible.  The frequency of sine wave patern here will be too high and waiting to burst off (something similar to like a nuclear fission -- the splitting of the nucleus of an atom into nuclei of lighter atoms, accompanied by the release of energy). And this sort of energy will be the destructive energy for the above said person.

"One cannot stay there for a longer time in a straight horizontal line pattern"

So what happens to these sort of leaders. They either get killed or they loose their position in a sudden manner the way they achieved it.

I hope they should  be content with the second option of comming down, because this is what should be the natural process/course or this energy. But this is where Pride will overtake them and cost them more than Hunger, Thirst and Cold.



 

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I hope I am not giving a lecture like a Hermit or sounding too philosophical ... lol 

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Dear pn73,

I am sorry i am not able to get your long lecture, any systematic approach you are speaking about?.

"you asked:
May I know what are the 4 dimentions please. I am not good at dimensions. "

Actually vedic astrology concept can be mapped in 4-dimentional plane.

Here we are studing the relationship of 'events' occurred at any intersection point of Space (x,y,z) and Time (t) of the person's life.
(space is the 3-D area, where body with mind and soul , has occupied in this universe. Time is age of the body)

Suppose you met me on the particular circumstance ie in a particular space(x,y,z) on earth on the particular time (T).
Next meeting could be on same space but factor of time will change.

In this way you can make a graph by intersecting all the meeting in the same space against time and we can further drive out that graph and can forsee when we will meet again in the same circumstances against time.

This is what in vedic astrology is called 'Kaal Chakra'  of the Karma of the person which is continuosly running from past birth to present and estimates some intersection points in future.

When we see the Hand, this 'Graph' of space and time is seen, which is continously rectifing automatically as per the present decisions made by person.

You see that knowing the time that, at what age the event will happen is much easier because it is linear.

But knowing 'how' that event will happen means 'space' , at what cirstumstances that event will happen is not easy because we are reading a linear graph of space (x,y,z) at hand.

I hope you have understand the concept.

Now let me know that how human can make a better graph than imprinted in hand. :evilgrin:cool



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If you had Rupees One Lakh invested in any of these stocks on Jan 2008 when sensex was near 21K, your money would be worth as following today (Oct 2008) ......... :)

Now apply my time line principle and see the results for yourself. Before the sensex reached 21K a year prior to that approximately, our sensex here in India was hovering anywhere from 10K to 12-14K. I had seen the whole nation was joyous every time the sensex crossed +1K mark and it was kind of a celebration for every one. You name it, office goers, housewives, youngsters, aged people, TV channels, news ... etc all were celebrating.

So from 12-14K the sensex reached to 21K which never happened in Indian Stock Market History and that too within a short span of time. In my subconscious mind I was starting to get the feelings of pity for all those who were going to see a bad time ahead (very soon) and God only knows how many people are going to loose their hard earned money invested in these stocks and mutual funds. I was using my timeline frequency principle within my mind to analyze this said factor.

I still remember a lady  who was into Stock Trading / Mutual Funds etc, persuading me to invest in these stocks. And I also recollect saying to her that  well if I had lots of money to invest I would still prefer depositing it in a Nationalized Bank and will be content with the little interest I get by doing so at that present time. This incident happened a couple a of months back.

Just see for yourselves what happened, any uneven sudden change of frequency is always not good. This is a practical example of Time Line Frequency and Stock Markets.

Well why I am talking here about the topic of Stock Exchange is because a respected forum member above compared my Time Line Frequency method with Stock Markets.

Time Line Frequency method can be used anywhere and in any form. Its upto the person how one understands this principle and try to experiment with it.

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 Posted: Mon Nov 3rd, 2008 07:07 pm

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BALANCE SHEET OF LIFE

Our Birth is our Opening Balance!
Our Death is our Closing Balance!
Our Prejudiced Views are our Liabilities.
Our Creative Ideas are our Assets.
Heart is our Current Asset.
Soul is our Fixed Asset.
Brain is our Fixed Deposit.
Thinking is our Current Account.
Achievements are our Capital.
Character & Morals, our Stock-in-Trade.
Friends are our General Reserves.
Values & Behaviour are our Goodwill.
Love is our Dividend.
Children are our Bonus Issues..
Education is Brands / Patents.
Knowledge is our Investment.
Experience is our Premium Account.
The Aim is to Tally the Balance Sheet Accurately.
The Goal is to get the Best Presented Accounts Award

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 Posted: Sat Nov 22nd, 2008 03:58 pm

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Goelji hahaha,

I thing now you are getting what I am trying to convey about Sine Wave pattern.

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 Posted: Sat Nov 22nd, 2008 03:59 pm

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Goelji hahaha,

I thing now you are getting what I am trying to convey about Sine Wave pattern.

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